eFestivals Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Might they agree to play if they already have a sold out stadium tour though?they don't already have a sold out stadium tour tho, do they?And if/when they've got a sold out tour, why not do extra dates for that tour and earn far more?The simple fact is that Glasto is not an attractive proposition for an band of this size unless they actively wish to do it - and given AC/DC's history there's no reason to think they would. To them, having total control has been of the utmost importance closely followed by the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 The simple fact is that Glasto is not an attractive proposition for an band of this size unless they actively wish to do it - and given AC/DC's history there's no reason to think they would. To them, having total control has been of the utmost importance closely followed by the money. We said the same about The Stones. Their gig has opened it up to anyone now. They're so influential, even their choices of gigs is a big thing for other bands to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 We said the same about The Stones. Their gig has opened it up to anyone now. They're so influential, even their choices of gigs is a big thing for other bands to follow.Yep, the same was said about the stones - tho it later emerged that they did actively want to do it, which turned out to be why they did.There might be something similar in the background with AC/DC too, but there's no reason to think there is. The fact they're (mostly) not Brits will lessen the possibility of that attraction I'd have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 PS: your post implies that Glasto is where mega-bands will in future come to die*.If so, the festival will do that too. (* tho it's worked for U2. They give away 500,000,000 copies of their album, and i've yet to hear/read anyone make a comment on it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 PS: your post implies that Glasto is where mega-bands will in future come to die*. If so, the festival will do that too. (* tho it's worked for U2. They give away 500,000,000 copies of their album, and i've yet to hear/read anyone make a comment on it ) I will then. Its total pants! But they're U2 Inc. now. Not U2. The music is secondary. Last tour had Bono thanking Blackberry from the fucking stage! But this corporate circle jerk is the end of them as a proper band in musical terms. Not sure about Glasto being a place where bands "come to die". "Come to cement their legacy" maybe. Therres still lots of space on the bill for relevant "now" bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcdwigo Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 And so it beings, as like every year, the faint tinge of hope for a particular band to play, knowing full well it's unlikely, but still continuing to dream...Glastonbury, why do you taunt us so?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 they don't already have a sold out stadium tour tho, do they? And if/when they've got a sold out tour, why not do extra dates for that tour and earn far more? The simple fact is that Glasto is not an attractive proposition for an band of this size unless they actively wish to do it - and given AC/DC's history there's no reason to think they would. To them, having total control has been of the utmost importance closely followed by the money. That's true actually. It would take an element of wanting to do it and up until recently they couldn't give a toss about festivals at all. I just googled to see if there's anything the Youngs have ever said about Glastonbury and found a thread on the AC/DC forums that says Mensch hasn't been their manager for over thirty years. Know if this is true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Neil's probably right that it doesnt make it any more likely, but any potential Glastonbury show was always going to be part of a larger stadium tour as opposed to a one-off. Someone should tweet Louise Mensch to see what she says :-P Be interesting to see if these new songs are still written by Malcolm and Angus or whether hes also retired as a songwriter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I just googled to see if there's anything the Youngs have ever said about Glastonbury and found a thread on the AC/DC forums that says Mensch hasn't been their manager for over thirty years. Know if this is true?Mensch is newly their manager again, so people posting here have said.And there's comments out there from over a year ago of Johnson saying "festival are a possibility in the future" too - tho it was all a bit vague, and before the news about Malcolm broke.The Malcolm thing suggests their life is now limited. So do they go for the money or for what they might want? Given their love of money in the past, I suspect the money is top of the pile now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsonjack Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 New album - "Rock or Bust" - 1st December. World tour in 2015. Stevie Young, nephew of founding members Angus and Malcolm Young, plays rhythm guitar on 'Rock or Bust' and will accompany the band on tour. awful title....although i did read somewhere that Brian had considered calling it 'Man Down'..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) The Malcolm thing suggests their life is now limited. So do they go for the money or for what they might want? Given their love of money in the past, I suspect the money is top of the pile now. Brian Johnson has said they were on borrowed time due to his age and style of singing. Hes a bit older than the others, nearly 67. Angus is 59. This was before Malcolm got sick. They can tour and get the money and make a stop off at Glasto to help cement their legacy while gaining new fans. Live on the Beeb. Its only one show. I'd argue that a band like them would make more money in the long run from a televised Glasto set through later record sales. Most of us are lucky enough not to know this - as we're usually there - but Glasto is a big big weekend in tellyland. People have Glasto parties and watch it all night. Metallica converted a load of new fans in June. Edited September 24, 2014 by The Nal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I wonder how the amount of album sales generated by headlining Glastonbury, compares with a headliners fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) I wonder how the amount of album sales generated by headlining Glastonbury, compares with a headliners fee. The Stones Grrr went from number 49 to number 17 the week after Glasto. Chase and Status album went from number 136 in the charts to number 36. Arctic Monkeys first album went from 180 to number 15 with a 8000% increase in sales the following week! Dollys best of went to number 5. Metallicas 25 year old Black Album went to number 19 etc etc. Glasto is a monster. Edited September 24, 2014 by The Nal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 They can tour and get the money and make a stop off at GlastoNope. Including a Glasto show isn't going for the money. Glasto would be them deciding to earn less money than they could otherwise have.That doesn't rule it out of course, but it would be a different way of them doing things to how they've previously done them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Metallica converted a load of new fans in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Black Album went up 150 places in the charts and people like Spotify were reporting huge spikes in Metallica streams. Even U2, who were almost officially not a success, had an increase of about 800%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Guy Called Matt Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 New album - "Rock or Bust" - 1st December. World tour in 2015. Stevie Young, nephew of founding members Angus and Malcolm Young, plays rhythm guitar on 'Rock or Bust' and will accompany the band on tour. So near yet so far 2nd December is release date LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 2nd December is release date LOLNot according to Sony Music in the email I've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisque Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) 1751% increase in sales of Build A Rocket Boys apparently...http://www.clashmusic.com/news/elbow-enjoy-glastonbury-sales-boost Edit: back in 2011 btw, less money to play G but mass increase in sales = WIN = G gets the best acts Edited September 24, 2014 by Couchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 1st will be UK release and 2nd will be US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael eavis' beard Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Mensch is newly their manager again, so people posting here have said. And there's comments out there from over a year ago of Johnson saying "festival are a possibility in the future" too - tho it was all a bit vague, and before the news about Malcolm broke. The Malcolm thing suggests their life is now limited. So do they go for the money or for what they might want? Given their love of money in the past, I suspect the money is top of the pile now. Wasn't it Malcolm who was the one member that was most against playing? And I think he pretty much dictated the direction of the band. Given that he isn't going to be returning to the band, this may have given the remaining members more freedom to do thing they want to do. In general, people's reasoning for doing things changes from financial to status and esteem over time anyway. Money may have been the determining factor for a long time but events can change this. It is possible that Malcolm's health issues have changed the bands focus. Maybe they see the end as being nigh and they are more focused on cementing their status as a great rock band - and Glastonbury sure would be one way of doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Guy Called Matt Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Not according to Sony Music in the email I've got. AC/DC official page says 2nd December Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 In general, people's reasoning for doing things changes from financial to status and esteem over time anyway. Money may have been the determining factor for a long time but events can change this. It is possible that Malcolm's health issues have changed the bands focus. Maybe they see the end as being nigh and they are more focused on cementing their status as a great rock band - and Glastonbury sure would be one way of doing that.I don't disagree with any of this as "possible".It's also possible that I'll be the next man to walk on the moon - yet nothing of that possibility means it's likely to happen.And that's what i'm getting at. There's nothing to give any real indication that AC/DC will do Glastonbury as a part of their next tour, particularly when put against the sorts of things they've preferred to do in the past.Wanting them to and then using that want as the basis to guess that they will doesn't change anything of that remote possibility from the limited info we have available to work from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 AC/DC official page says 2nd DecemberTheir record company are more likely to be correct, particularly in an email sent out to UK music press.And their website is perhaps aiming itself at their biggest market (which i'm assuming to be the US). No one will fail to buy the album on the 2nd, whilst it sounds like some might on the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 As massive Stones fans it might even be as simple a thought process for them as "if it's good enough for the Stones then it's good enough for us". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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