Benefits Britian 1949

[Barry Fish]

Five mins watching this goes to show how many people do look to the benefit system for a life style.

[philipsteak]

Poverty porn. I refuse to watch it. Channel 4 are an embarassment

[Sawdusty surfer]

Five mins watching this goes to show how many people do look to the benefit system for a life style.

[pink_triangle]

it's funny how some around here claim they don't exist

[russycarps]

Five mins watching this goes to show how many people do look to the benefit system for a life style.

[pink_triangle]

how many people is it then?

[eFestivals]

and it's funny how some around here claim they don't exist

who's done that then? In all the years I've run this site I've never seen anyone claim that some people don't take advantage of the benefits system. Might it be that Barry is making things up from nothing, again?

Is taking advantage of the benefits system to fatten pockets any different to those who take advantage of the tax system to fatten pockets? Nope.

Guess which of the two is more rife?

Guess which of the two costs more?

Guess which of the two is acted against while the other is not?

Etc, etc, etc. The proportional view is everything.

And only the stupid view gets Barry's constant wrath.

[russycarps]

Im sure I read a statistic that the amount of people capable of work, who have been benefits for 10 years plus made up a tiny proportion of the welfare bill, not the norm as the daily mail would lead us to think.

[eFestivals]

Im sure I read a statistic that the amount of people capable of work, who have been benefits for 10 years plus made up a tiny proportion of the welfare bill, not the norm as the daily mail would lead us to think.

given that those (excluding the disabled) who are (legitimately or not) claiming non-working benefits is only a tiny proportional of the welfare bill, then those who are abusing the system within that can only be a tiny tiny tiny proportion.

The benefits bill is not high due to fraud. it's not even high to due to those who don't work.

It's high due to those who work but who do not get a living wage.

And guess what is the only way to see that change? It's by having those who earn higher than the average see their own incomes fall.

Let's see how much Barry *REALLY* cares about the welfare bill, by how he responds to that irrefutable fact...

Edited August 27, 2013 by eFestivals

[Guest]

While the overall purpose of the program seemed to be to backup conservative policy and rehtoric it does show how some people are scrounges expected way too much from the system. Very much expecting a lifestyle etc. and it's funny how some around here claim they don't exist

Edited August 27, 2013 by tonyblair

[eFestivals]

I don't disagree.... the number of arseholes refusing to work is very low.

and the number of arseholes who are happy to see working people struggle on benefits while they coin it is very high.

[eFestivals]

Utter bollocks

Companies could reduce dividends and pay every one more... It's company owners who are the main source of the issues,

Companies could reduce divi's yep ... but the truth is that divi's haven't really got too much ahead of themselves (unlike the higher wages) in relation to the stock market values of companies - tho it's worth pointing out that there's nothing scared about those stock market valuations either; but when money is being printed it has to be spent, and it's getting spent on 'investments' such as shares.

What can be pointed at as having changed significantly in the last 30 years as 'living wages' have become less common is the proportional spread of wages within companies - where those on the higher wages have had above average rises and those on the lower wages have seen their wages stagnate.

And so what is utter bollocks is your words of utter bollocks.

If you *really* want to see others earn a living wage and not be dependent on welfare you have to accept that your own wages need to proportionally fall. So now you need to ask yourself who you care about the most - yourself, or society.

And you don't need to answer that.

And so we're back to this....

the number of arseholes who are happy to see working people struggle on benefits while they coin it is very high

Edited August 27, 2013 by eFestivals

[Guest]

I don't disagree.... the number of arseholes refusing to work is very low.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Threads like this are ultimately pointless as the programme makers select people to give the best shock value. There is no way they give a true reflection on society.