Is Nick Cave as a sub the wrong choice?

[Trebor]

He's one of those people I don't know a lot about, but I enjoyed him in 09 and have always liked anything I've heard by him. Where should I start?

[russycarps]

He's one of those people I don't know a lot about, but I enjoyed him in 09 and have always liked anything I've heard by him. Where should I start?

[Zoo Music Girl]

Get Tender Prey, No More Shall We Part and Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!! for a good overall idea. But every album is good. Push The Sky Away too, since that will feature heavily.

[ian the worm]

He's one of those people I don't know a lot about, but I enjoyed him in 09 and have always liked anything I've heard by him. Where should I start?

[jimmyt]

He's one of those people I don't know a lot about, but I enjoyed him in 09 and have always liked anything I've heard by him. Where should I start?

[ethereal]

Subbing twice (one as Grinderman) at Coachella this w/e and the next, must remember to watch the stream http://www.coachella.com/lineup/set-times

Would have liked to see him headline JP and Grinderman on The Park too perhaps

Edited April 10, 2013 by ethereal

[russycarps]

Live Seeds is really good too

[jimmyt]

Hang on .... I never said Pendulum are a better act, just with a more current well known/commercial stuff which suited the pre-Bryonce crowd.

And being mid 30's I had heard of him but with the exception of the song with Kyle had no knowledge of any of his work.

Maybe people are right and he's been put there as a contrast to the Mumfords, but I think and someone else mentioned it, ....however good his music is its not instantly accessible and will therefore go under appreciated by the majority of the crowd. This is why I think subbing the headline act on main stage needs to be a bit more either current or known ie Dizzie & Primal Scream.

[jimmyt]

Hopefully the message you're getting is start with one of his albums and then buy the others!!

[Trebor]

Yeah, I don't know why, he's just one of those artists that has passed me by so far despite me liking what I've heard, but I'm willing to rectify that!

[evilduck]

I started with Let Love In and was hooked.

[CaledonianGonzo]

The Best of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds is actually a pretty decent starter for 10,

[Zoo Music Girl]

Live Seeds is really good too

[Zero_Newnab]

I've tried to get into his stuff a few times now, but it's just not for me.

Seems like he's probably up against the Pumpkins, so that's where I'll be.

[fatyeti24]

I've tried to get into his stuff a few times now, but it's just not for me.

Seems like he's probably up against the Pumpkins, so that's where I'll be.

[russycarps]

Yes it is - I prefer the Henry's Dream songs on here to the album version.

I started with the Best Of to be fair. And then bought everything else pretty swiftly.

I love how every Nick Cave thread swiftly ends up being album and song recommendations - and they're usually all different.

Edited April 10, 2013 by russycarps

[russycarps]

I've tried to get into his stuff a few times now, but it's just not for me.

Seems like he's probably up against the Pumpkins, so that's where I'll be.

[Boss84]

he was brilliant subbing in 2009!

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

Totally the wrong slot (not size wise, but crowd wise) just as Morrissey was in the wrong slot in 2011 & that is why regrettably I will be at the Pumpkins instead. He should have headlined the Other stage.

Edited April 10, 2013 by Frankly Mr Shankly

[whisty]

If you look on it as purely a commercial decision and god forbid that NC&TBS would do anything on that basis. The Pyramid slot might offer the best chance of new fans/sales. On the other hand in the JP tent or wherever, there's only going to be a partisan crowd. Would be good for fans but not so good in terms of potential sales growth. And after all, the band will get paid whatever stage they play.

Like some have said already, imho they're the best on offer for Sunday so far & doesn't matter to me where they play.

Apologies if I'm repeating anybody elses opinion.

Edited April 10, 2013 by whisty

[redmosquito]

Can't say I knew that much about him but I caught his 09 set and loved it so much that I went out and bought a few albums when I got back on the Monday. I do think headlining the Other might be better for him but I'm just excited to see him on the bill.

[russycarps]

If you look on it as purely a commercial decision and god forbid that NC&TBS would do anything on that basis. The Pyramid slot might offer the best chance of new fans/sales. On the other hand in the JP tent or wherever, there's only going to be a partisan crowd. Would be good for fans but not so good in terms of potential sales growth. And after all, the band will get paid whatever stage they play.

Like some have said already, imho they're the best on offer for Sunday so far & doesn't matter to me where they play.

Apologies if I'm repeating anybody elses opinion.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

In my humble opinion Nick Cave doesn't strike me as being too bothered about sales, exposure etc, he could easily have taken a more "pop" route when he was getting mainstream attention from the Kylie track, but he didn't. He strikes me as the sort of guy that just does what he does & if people turn up to see it/buy it then great, but if not he'd probably still be doing it anyway.

[abdoujaparov]

The fact that I first saw Nick Cave fronting the Birthday Party at the Electric Ballroom in 1983 suddenly makes me feel ancient....

[abdoujaparov]

Excuse me while I reminisce..

I then saw NC and the Bad Seeds for the first time again the Electric Ballroom in November 1984. Here's the setlist:

Blind Lemon Jefferson/ From Her To Eternity/ Say Goodbye To The Little Girl Tree/ Knockin' On Joe/ Black Crow King/ Train Long Suffering/ Well Of Misery/ Saint Huck/ Knockin' On Heaven's Door

and then again at the Hammersmith Palais in April 1985 (supported by Sonic Youth - what a fucking gig). Here's the setlist:

Blind Lemon Jefferson/ Sad Dark Eyes/ Tupelo/ Well Of Misery/ Wanted Man/ Say Goodbye To The Little Girl Tree/ Knockin' On Joe/ Train Long Suffering/ Saint Huck/ Avalanche/ Black Crow King/ Wild World/ Jennifer's Veil.

what I wouldn't give for that setlist at Pilton - except maybe end the set with Sonny's Burning..."hands up who wants to die..." that'll put the shits up the Mumfords