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[The Nal]

Why the hell has it taken them this long to book Brock properly? That's exactly how he should have been from the beginning of his return.

Yep. Crowd very close to breaking into a "Lesnar" chant too!"

[luckysalt]

Raw was ok, lot of fluff after the first couple matches.

Sick of the build with Cena its so boring, the Authority do the same thing week after week, it doesn't even feel like they were off screen for 2 months.

I liked how they used Brock and I liked Rollins mic work again this week

The whole reunion thing made absolutely no sense tho, nWo came to the ring for what reason again?

Rumour Dudleys are gunna be in the rumble on Sunday, although I see no point in that whatsever.

[Andre91]

Yeah, Cena 'overcoming the odds' is more tiresome now than ever before, although I really don't see him walking out with the title on Sunday.

How the hell they could ever have an NWO reunion without Hogan is beyond me. Loved the APA stuff, JBL is gold. Nice to see the NAO back too, I really enjoyed their run last year and felt like they should have stayed around a bit longer.

The Dudleys returning would be immense, they're my all time favorite tag team, but I don't see them entering the Rumble match itself. Coming out to confront The Ascension after their match with The Outlaws would be great (and hopefully dishing out a 3D through a table!).

Rumble predictions? Ambrose and Reigns to have a double elimination finish. I think that the title match should go on last, it feels so much more important than the Rumble itself. In the title match I see Cena pinning Rollins for his 16th World Title, causing Lesnar to snap and hand out a massive ass kicking to John Boy, only for Rollins to cash in and walk out champion.

Ambrose and Reigns can have a match at the February PPV to determine the #1 contender due to their double finish, only for that to end a draw also, (double countout or something?) leaving Ambrose vs. Reigns vs. Rollins as the Main Event for WrestleMania, with Reigns getting his moment that the company are so eager to go forward with.

Edited January 20, 2015 by Andre91

[luckysalt]

Andre, sadly that sounds very much like WWE booking.

Surely though they see in Reigns just another Batista, who bombed in that position last year, what they should do with Reigns is what they did with The Rock, they pushed The Rock to world title level PERFECTLY, It was possibly the greatest push to world title level ever with a guy they want in that position but the crowd aint buying it.

Think about it, Rock was been pushed massively on his way in, the office wanted him a clean cut babyface, the crowd shit all over it, so they turned him heel, he got over as a heel somewhat, but in that late summer of 98 post King of the Ring when he turned face the fans got behind him, he had that series of matches v Mankind and Shamrock, in a triple threat and then in the cage, the fans were so solidly behind him, then at the last minute they turned him heel and he won the title in the biggest way and the fans HATED him.

He become a megastar.

The thing is, WWE have been pushing Rollins as the heel, and hes over.

Reigns is not over as the face, Bryan still is, and people are behind Ambrose more than Reigns,

I see Reigns and Ambrose have had a little reconciliation lately, but Reigns needs to turn heel on Bryan in his way to winning the title if hes to get over.

I would book it as what you say, Rollins wins the title, but have Reigns and Bryan somehow both become number one contenders, have a triple threat match at Mania maybe even have Bryan beat someone earlier in the night and book it as can Bryan repeat history of last year, but people are predicting Reigns will probably go over, then during the match have HHH help Reigns win the title from Rollins, screwing Rollins, saying he's not a yes man, look at all the problems he caused with Lesnar etc, he can't follow direction, he thinks hes too good for where he is etc, since he captured the title, Reigns is a guy who will be the corporate champion, follow orders and do exactly what they want.

Rollins is out the Authority picture, Reigns is in, the mega heel and champion. Thats how I would book it.

[metallimuse]

I don't think the fans would give a shit either way about Reigns.Guys got no charisma at all.

[The Nal]

So a Lesnar face turn is to lose to Rollins at WM and then its off to UFC?

[lharris92]

what sums up reigns is at a house show recently he was tagging with daniel bryan against members of the authority... they won... bryan was getting a huge pop and when he tried to get the crowd to cheer for reigns, there really wasn't much cheering/a bit of booing heard.

i think its really just because he's getting forced down our throat a bit.... almost akin to 'lol cena wins again'.

nothing against either of them, think reigns is boring and cena needs to stop 'overcoming the odds' to win.

maybe he needs more of those acting lessons.... and less of the promos written by vince..

[The Nal]

maybe he needs more of those acting lessons.... and less of the promos written by vince..

Or just not do as many promos? Keep them short and sweet if he does have to do them. Build up his confidence and character.

[Andre91]

I agree Salty, everything about Reigns feels forced, nothing is organic. Personally, I think they should go with Rollins vs. Bryan for the title at Mania.

The corporate Reigns option would be cool I think. Take the triple threat scenario I mentioned. Triple H comes down to seemingly help Rollins. Ambrose hits Rollins with dirty deeds and is about to win the title, the crowd are going nuts for him, but then Triple H hands Reigns the sledgehammer and he nails Ambrose. BOOM. Ultimate heat right there. Rollins gets up wondering what's going on, only to receive a sledgehammer shot himself. 1, 2, 3 and Reigns becomes the new Authority chosen champion.

Edited January 21, 2015 by Andre91

[metallimuse]

Said for ages couldn't give a shit about Reigns.It's so forced and stale.The European crowd that go to Raw day after Wrestlemania will eat him alive!

[When Jokers Attack]

No chance Ambrose will be involved in the main event scene going ino WM. he has been booked pretty weak during this latest feud with Wyatt, Don't think he has won a match. I'd put Ambrose in the IC title scene picture.

I still think Bryan will win the Rumble, he will be an early entrant and story of the match will focus around him.

I don't think Rollins will be in the title picture either, surely Orton is due to come back anytime now. and we know who he has unfinished business with.The 3 way with The Shield will happen one day but now is maybe a bit too soon.

I'm still going to go with Cena vs Bryan or Bryan vs Lesnar.

Edit: Just a reminder that Insane Fight Club 2 is on tonight.

10.35pm @BBCScotland Rest of the UK (also 10.35pm): Sky - 951 Freesat - 960 Virgin Media - 862

Edited January 21, 2015 by When Jokers Attack

[DomDom1984]

Yup. Looking forward to that. It covers their UK tour last year as well as their biggest show ever. Good stuff.

[A-Rob]

I think somehow Rollins will leave the rumble, with wwe world title. Bryan will win the rumble and set up the main event Bryan vs Rollins at WM 31

I believe Reigns vs Brock will also be on the card but not for the title.

[metallimuse]

I think somehow Rollins will leave the rumble, with wwe world title. Bryan will win the rumble and set up the main event Bryan vs Rollins at WM 31

I believe Reigns vs Brock will also be on the card but not for the title.

If they were smart that's how it should be booked.Possibly make it a three way with Brock & Reigns by having Orton in there.

[daniel.k]

What would the motivation to book Reigns Lesnar for Mania. Unless Lesnar made a problem with Reigns, I cant see a story to lead up to it unless Reigns tries to win the crowd over and avenge the loss of Taker, but I could see that backfiring

[jump]

What would the motivation to book Reigns Lesnar for Mania. Unless Lesnar made a problem with Reigns, I cant see a story to lead up to it unless Reigns tries to win the crowd over and avenge the loss of Taker, but I could see that backfiring

The fued would start when Reigns wins Rumble, it's happened in the past when there's no feud till they are in postion of challenging each other.

You could have Lesnar and Reigns team up against Rollins their common enemy and once they beat him Lesnar turns on Reigns.

[metallimuse]

Have Reigns come down at the Rumble trying to prevent Rollins winning the match but instead ending costing Lesnar the match,done.Reigns gets to beat a monster at Wrestlemania pushing his stock higher and we get to see Bryan Rollins for the title which people would actually want to see.

[Andre91]

I genuinely think the crowd would boo Reigns coming and interfering with the title match, no matter who he was coming to help/stop.

[The Nal]

WWE will be down to 1 top tier heel after Lesnar leaves. A face turn now to bring through another heel is a good idea.

[When Jokers Attack]

Yeah they really need to create more top heels. If Rollins ever gets injured then they are screwed. Hopefully Sheamus comes back as a heel as he is stale as a face but a great woker, never has a bad match.

[Andre91]

Reigns would be so much better as a heel. A silent type (not completely, but short, to the point promos) ass kicker. His ring gear already screams heel for me, so I think that if you put a manager with him who can speak (e.g. Heyman) then he would be sorted.

[daniel.k]

The fued would start when Reigns wins Rumble, it's happened in the past when there's no feud till they are in postion of challenging each other.

You could have Lesnar and Reigns team up against Rollins their common enemy and once they beat him Lesnar turns on Reigns.

I was meaning if Reigns didnt win the rumble and Lesnar not keeping the title. I liked the idea of Reigns costing Lesnar the title and maybe siding with Rollins and the Authority. With Ambrose not being a huge face, and Rollins already established as a heel, I doubt WWE would turn Reigns, so no former Shield member was a strong face.

Depending on if the title match comes before the rumble, it might be good to see Orton come in and cost Rollins the match when Rollins is on the verge of winning, setting up Rollins Orton for Mania. Would ruin the 'surprise' of him coming back in the rumble, but it would certainly keep the feud going for a few months

[The Nal]

Yeah Sheamus should be put back as a heel but the current pro Irish buzz in the States may make that a non runner.

And thats an interesting point. Who do they put Heyman with if/when Brock leaves?!

And where does Sting fit into all this? Has signed a deal for only 6 appearances apparently. 2 of which hes already used. HHH at Mania?

Edited January 22, 2015 by The Nal

[jump]

Yeah Sheamus should be put back as a heel but the current pro Irish buzz in the States may make that a non runner.

And thats an interesting point. Who do they put Heyman with if/when Brock leaves?!

Ascension and Reigns, both need someone else to do their talking.

[Andre91]

That Ascension promo with the NWO was beyond awkward. What was with the really drawn out pauses between their lines? They should have been brought up and put with Bray Wyatt, not necessarily as a new 'family' but as henchmen, for lack of a better word.

Something else that I've been wanting to see is Paige being paired with Seth Rollins.

Edited January 22, 2015 by Andre91