Fall out boy?

[theloveofmusic1]

I heard from someone who seems to get quite a lot of these predictions right because his dad's like a producer or something. I know its sort of my friends cousins dads best friend situation, but he told me that Fall out Boy would be making a return for R&L.

He said they would be headlining the NME stage on the saturday (reading) which im a bit skeptikal about because i would think they were too big for NME.

Thoughts?

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Were very good in '09.

[pink_triangle]

I heard from someone who seems to get quite a lot of these predictions right because his dad's like a producer or something. I know its sort of my friends cousins dads best friend situation, but he told me that Fall out Boy would be making a return for R&L.

He said they would be headlining the NME stage on the saturday (reading) which im a bit skeptikal about because i would think they were too big for NME.

Thoughts?

[luckysalt]

Well the Damned Things are doing Download, suppose theres enough time for Fall Out Boy, unless those members have left

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

If the manics can headline the nme tent theres no reason a band considerably less popular cannot.

[pink_triangle]

The last three fall out boy albums charted in the uk at 12, 3 and 39. The last three manics charted at 2,3 and 3 despite the fact they are past their commercial peak. Manics have sold more albums, sold more singles and headlined more festivals in the uk than fall out boy. If manics can headline the tent then there is no way fall out boy are too big for the same slot.

[Sparticus]

The last three fall out boy albums charted in the uk at 12, 3 and 39. The last three manics charted at 2,3 and 3 despite the fact they are past their commercial peak. Manics have sold more albums, sold more singles and headlined more festivals in the uk than fall out boy. If manics can headline the tent then there is no way fall out boy are too big for the same slot.

[SoLoCo]

Whatever happened to them? Could of swore they had some teenage-like twitter break up?

[pink_triangle]

The last time fall out boy played they were 4th headliners which is par with tent headliners. If manics played the main stage again they would be no lower than 4th. So this idea that fall out boy are much bigger in the uk doesnt hold with me. If you feel ticket sales is a better way of judging then fair enough, but where is the evidence that manics have sold less tickets than fall out boy in the last few years. Just because a band last did an arena tour, does not mean they have sold more tickets. If fall out boy had played twice the amount of dates on their last tour they probably wouldn have done an arena tour as the demand wouldnt have been there.

[Vacant0]

I would have thought the obvious comparasion would have been with Lostprophets, but there you go...

[pink_triangle]

Agreed with the lost prophets comparison. Look back at previous line ups and there are several bands as big, if not bigger than fall out boy are now.

[thetime]

are we really comparing the manics with fall out boy?

manics one of the most important bands of the 90s and still cutting it, to a band aimed at 14 year old who by the time they reach legal age to drink are not interested.

[mrtourette]

The main factor is simply predicting how many people will be interested in seeing them. Previous album sales, previous tour sales, importance and quality combine to make up that judgement but no single one of those can be seriously used to justify a placing.

[thetime]

The main factor is simply predicting how many people will be interested in seeing them. Previous album sales, previous tour sales, importance and quality combine to make up that judgement but no single one of those can be seriously used to justify a placing.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

The last three fall out boy albums charted in the uk at 12, 3 and 39. The last three manics charted at 2,3 and 3 despite the fact they are past their commercial peak. Manics have sold more albums, sold more singles and headlined more festivals in the uk than fall out boy. If manics can headline the tent then there is no way fall out boy are too big for the same slot.

[mrtourette]

do album sales have anything to do with it though? as we all know they practically make nothing from record sales.

do we mean record sales in the last 2 years or from there career?

[therefused]

You said if Manics can headline, there's no reason a band less popular can't.

What do you mean?

Of course there's no reason a band less popular can't. Are you sure you didn't mean more popular? No-one's said FOB are too big.

[Yellow_Fellow]

You said if Manics can headline, there's no reason a band less popular can't.

What do you mean?

Of course there's no reason a band less popular can't. Are you sure you didn't mean more popular? No-one's said FOB are too big.

[jump]

No, they have broken up.

[pink_triangle]

It's all down to relevance, positioning. If a band headline it's because it makes sense. It made sense for Arcade Fire to get the headline last year. They subbed '07, and released a massive album, and were huge in Readings eyes. Fall Out Boy, although bigger than Manic Street Preachers, are nothing as a Reading headliner. They represent nothing that Reading wishes to, and they just don't have the power to. Manics are a much bigger force than FOB, and I'm aware I'm using buzzwords galore, but it's really hard to explain.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

ahahaha, what?

You have to account for MUCH more than popularity in headliners, that's why we don't get the same situation every year a la TITP...

It's all down to relevance, positioning. If a band headline it's because it makes sense. It made sense for Arcade Fire to get the headline last year. They subbed '07, and released a massive album, and were huge in Readings eyes. Fall Out Boy, although bigger than Manic Street Preachers, are nothing as a Reading headliner. They represent nothing that Reading wishes to, and they just don't have the power to. Manics are a much bigger force than FOB, and I'm aware I'm using buzzwords galore, but it's really hard to explain.

Edited February 13, 2011 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[bennyk]

The Rules + regs say that anybody under the age of 16 must be companied by somebody over the age of 18, taking into consideration that the average age of fall out boy fans must be around 14/15. they won't have anybody watching them as there not allowed in

Sorted.

[allan14]

No, they have broken up.

[Sparticus]

The last time fall out boy played they were 4th headliners which is par with tent headliners. If manics played the main stage again they would be no lower than 4th. So this idea that fall out boy are much bigger in the uk doesnt hold with me. If you feel ticket sales is a better way of judging then fair enough, but where is the evidence that manics have sold less tickets than fall out boy in the last few years. Just because a band last did an arena tour, does not mean they have sold more tickets. If fall out boy had played twice the amount of dates on their last tour they probably wouldn have done an arena tour as the demand wouldnt have been there.

[kev1664]

Put it this way, if the manics were to be announced as main stage headliners for this year there wouldn't be many who would complain about it. Nobody can deny they are an important and iconic band in the UK, the set they could put together would probably go den as one of the best of all time.

If fob were announced as main stage headliners the uproar would be huge. Some bands have the image FR are looking for and some don't. I think fob could easily headline the NME, they have had manics, lost prophets, faith no more, pendulum headline in the last 3 year all who would compare in size to fob in my opinion.