Jessie J

[eFestivals]

Yeah they had killer tunes too though. Even in the early days. And they weren't that good looking. Most girls say Paul was nice looking back when, but thats about it.

Poor old Rings was hardly Enrique Iglesias now was he?

sorry to say matey you've got that completely wrong.

Ringo was recruited to replace Pete Best precisely because of his looks and how much of a hit he was with the ladies. The other guys were hoping that attraction would rub off on both them personally and for the band.

Edited July 8, 2011 by eFestivals

[fred quimby]

It certainly makes that liking of them uncredible, in any musical sense - that's all I was getting at, nothing more.

OK, but I'm sure the music went with liking the artist. Tom Jones would be another, I'm sure people bought the albums and listened (whilst moistening their nickers)and enjoyed the music

[ukslim]

There's nothing at all wrong with liking a musical act as a package. How they move, dress, look on stage is all part of the package, otherwise why don't bands play behind a curtain?

It's as true for ZZ Top as it is for Seasick Steve as it is for David Bowie, the Fleet Foxes, The Saturdays, Girls Aloud or Jesse J.

It's not always about them being fanciable, but it's perfectly fine if it is.

Yes, I fancy Emmy the Great. What of it?

[Neeeeeedles]

hands off, she's mine.

There's nothing at all wrong with liking a musical act as a package. How they move, dress, look on stage is all part of the package, otherwise why don't bands play behind a curtain?

It's as true for ZZ Top as it is for Seasick Steve as it is for David Bowie, the Fleet Foxes, The Saturdays, Girls Aloud or Jesse J.

It's not always about them being fanciable, but it's perfectly fine if it is.

Yes, I fancy Emmy the Great. What of it?

[NeilVJ]

Jessie J is still music for children and is just marketed and told what to say and what to do by a record company. The Price tag gimic was such a fake pre-done thing that it was laughable

[bamber]

My comment about her hair was mostly about me finding it unattractive, as well as Jessie unattractive - which is possibly the effect of the haircut. I'd have to see her with a different haircut to know how much if any was really down to that haircut.

Yes, I know that others have done similar - but I don't personally find those as unattractive.

And aside from that they're done with more style.

Here's a photo I posted earlier in this thread of Jessie without make-up. I personally fail to see how her looks are particularly relevant, but few would deny that underneath her chosen (admittedly debatable) stage persona make-up she is actually very naturally beautiful. I think most of all that this girl's real beauty comes from within, virtually everything I hear her say is so upbeat and positive, she never fails to make me smile.

[Ian_Mackay]

But the Beatles cut their teeth in real music bars and clubs, which is where they rose to fame.. I doubt the Cavern was full of 16yr old girls screaming at them in their early days... (not that I was there). They may have grown into sex icons but it certainly wasn't the initial motivating force behind their early careers.

[ukslim]

But the Beatles cut their teeth in real music bars and clubs, which is where they rose to fame.. I doubt the Cavern was full of 16yr old girls screaming at them in their early days...

It was Hamburg before the Cavern. Shagging their way through German girls, in between hour upon hour as a house band in what were essentially strip bars. Taking an awful lot of speed. George Harrison got deported for being underage, at 17...

But the "paying your dues" angle is bollocks, especially nowadays. If you can put together something good in your bedroom, who cares whether you've slogged through the gig circuit?

[bamber]

But the Beatles cut their teeth in real music bars and clubs, which is where they rose to fame.. I doubt the Cavern was full of 16yr old girls screaming at them in their early days... (not that I was there). They may have grown into sex icons but it certainly wasn't the initial motivating force behind their early careers.

I'll think you'll find that the Cavern did have plenty of screaming female fans but probably a bit older than 16. Jessie J is no stranger to "real music bars and clubs" by the way. I don't really get how the Beatles got shoe horned into this thread either

[Ian_Mackay]

Let's leave them out of it then..

Carry on..

[fred quimby]

Jessie J is still music for children and is just marketed and told what to say and what to do by a record company. The Price tag gimic was such a fake pre-done thing that it was laughable

*Shrugs*

Who cares, I'm sure most bands get the same. I didn't see her at Glasto but sounds like most folk there had a blast which is what it's all about. I'm sure it'll be someting else next time and people will have a good time then. Damn them for trying to be popular and make some money. And the Price Tag thing, well maybe it was pre-done (although her mother was interviewed after and said she missed it as she was nipping back to the tent to grab something, which might indicate it wasn't) but who cares. I bet you would have hated Alice Cooper when he did all his pre-arranged antics, or the sex pistols pre-arranged stunts.

I suppose bands are only good when they are for grown ups (what ever that means) and only a few cool people are watching

Edited July 8, 2011 by fred quimby

[muddyslingbax]

you miserable old gits

Jessie J was great and i'm 47.

Now fix up and stop filling up my in box with this nonsense

[bamber]

This thread needs fresh Jessie videos!

[bamber]

Thinking about it, there is something a bit evolutionarily Eartha Kitt about Jessie J.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-oEA1sK374

[bamber]

It's about time you all got acquainted with Dare Jessie J This will separate lovers from the haters (there are 7 episodes of this )

[bamber]

Last one for tonight. Not everyone will agree, but this is both pure and profound.

[ukslim]

I'm just watching "Secrets of the Pop Song" from last night.

They have David Hepworth talking about the Spice Girls' songwriting credits. The way he's putting it, they would all have been in the room, having a big brain storming session, around the skeleton of Wannabe, and one of them came up with the "zig a zig ah" bit. And his point is, you might just have contributed one word, or one phrase, but who's to say that's not the bit that made it work?

Similarly, Boy George saying, sometimes there's been a group of you in the room writing a song, and one person might not seem to have contributed much -- but they were there, and just be being there they contributed something; "biscuits maybe"

[eFestivals]

OK, but I'm sure the music went with liking the artist.

not in the case of what I replied to it didn't. There was nothing credible in any musical sense to that post.

[eFestivals]

who, Pete or Ringo had the looks?

Ringo. Yes, I know it's hard to believe.

But it's defo the case that he was recruited because of the good reaction he got from females, and that the rest of the band wanted some of it to rub off on them.

[The Nal]

Heres the person who replaced Jessie J at Oxegen at the weekend. Shes a socialite/"journo".

Check out the crowd!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IDgAnOxuYo

[ukslim]

Check out the crowd!!

"Everybody! Woo!"

[captain futility]

Last one for tonight. Not everyone will agree, but this is both pure and profound.

the most annoying, tuneless drivel i've had the displeasure of listening to in a long, long time.

[The Nal]

what was everyone doing while she was on?

This....

Re-post from discussions.

Another total disaster at Oxegen at the weekend.

Five people stabbed on Friday night, lots of tents robbed and some set on fire.

Promotors MCD refused to comment. Refused to comment!! After five people were stabbed!! Can you f**king believe it!!??

Two rapes, one in 2006 and one in 2008 and another stabbing in 2009.

Boards.ie (Irish forum) has locked a thread about it "for review", ie a threat (yet again) of legal action from MCD. They did the same thing in 2006, 2008 and 2009. Threatened to sue everyone who talked about it/allowed people to post about it, (look out Neil) including The Irish Independant and RTE, the National broadcaster.

Voted "Best festival in Europe" too somehow.

it's the other way round... they were jealous of the attention that Pete Best was getting if anything

in reality, they wanted a better drummer

They wanted a drummer who would turn up for gigs too. Pete Best used to miss gigs, off on the piss, off with girls etc and they used to get Ringo in at the last minute. Ringo had a beard, had changed his name, looked cool (but not “good looking”) etc.

Pete Best was fired because George Martin didn’t like him. He wanted a “proper drummer” to record them so the band asked Epstein to fire Best. Pete Best was never a proper member of the band anyway, was never informed of decisions etc. He was always just a stop gap.

Edited July 11, 2011 by The Nal

[eFestivals]

it's the other way round... they were jealous of the attention that Pete Best was getting if anything

in reality, they wanted a better drummer

I guess we're working off different sources.

The stuff I've read says that they recruited Ringo because he was the local 'guy-in-a-band-that-all-the-ladies-love' (he personally was far more popular than they as a band were at the time), and that they felt he was a worse drummer but his attraction more than made up for it.

[The Nal]

I guess we're working off different sources.

The stuff I've read says that they recruited Ringo because he was the local 'guy-in-a-band-that-all-the-ladies-love' (he personally was far more popular than they as a band were at the time), and that they felt he was a worse drummer but his attraction more than made up for it.

Nah mate, he was way better than Pete Best. The only reason they got Best in was because they had no drummer and had to leave for Hamburg the following day. They knew Best had a drum kit because his mum had just bought him one for Christmas.

The reason they knew Pete Best by the way was because John kind of knew him and the Beatles roadie Neil Aspinal, then 20 years old, was shagging Pete Bests mum, Mona and had a child with her.

Anyway, Jessie J........