Football 2010-2011

[pink_triangle]

Dont get me wrong o neil had faults but when manager goes there is a tendancy to look at the previous managers faults and just assume the new man can do better. Lets not forget the likely candidates to replace o neil are all out of work for a reason as well. the benchmark that o neil has set will be hard to follow. My opinion is his succesor will do worse than him. I think O neil has left at the right time.

[ste4_20]

I'd be over the moon if that happened, but why would city let it happen? They can afford to have him sitting on the bench, and why would they sell to us and make us a stronger side? Sadly I just can't see it going ahead.

[Steve P]

While I agree Given is better than any keeper at Arsenal, he still wouldn't be the kind of keeper they need. No command over a defence, and wouldn't give a lot of confidence to players in front of him. Arsenal tend to concede a lot of goals from not many shots on target if I remember correctly. Givens best when he's being hammered by shots from every direction. That wouldn't happen with Arsenal.

Spend as much as it'd take to get Neuer or Adler. Or ideally, Buffon.

[eFestivals]

looks like Fergie wasted his night out the other day for the purpose of letting Ozil see he was interested so he could get him on a free next summer.

According to BBC's gossip, Barca are about to sign him for £8.3M.

If that doesn't tell Utd fans that they've got no money to spend, nothing will.

[TheGayTent]

I agree. We've not had a really commanding keeper since crazy Jens left, and we've had real defensive problems ever since. The thing is I just don't see us spending big money on a keeper so any improvement would be welcomed. Wengers biggest fault (in terms of finding new players before people start ) has always been in spotting keepers.

[The Nal]

If that doesn't tell Utd fans that they've got no money to spend, nothing will.

[Steve P]

Lehman wasn't great either. Manninger who AW let go, is far better than any keeper currently on your books.

[TheGayTent]

Kovac to Stoke has come out of leftfield (if SSN are correct...)

Chuffed to bits if we can get anywhere near £2m for him though

[eFestivals]

Yeah that proves it.

His "its my dream to play for Barca" comments may have an influence. No?

Apparently hes going to Benfica now anyway.

He can't move anywhere at all unless a team bids. Did Utd bid?

It seems pretty clear to me that Fergie watching him the other night was to say "run down your contract then sign for Utd".

He's a more than decent player, who is/was going to end up at one of the leading clubs. If a player like that is available for less than £10M - which is obviously is - then any of those leading clubs would put in a bid if they have the money and they're half confident of landing the player.

So either Utd don't have the money, or they've zero confidence of getting him regardless of what they might bid.... but if they had that zero confidence of getting him, Fergie wouldn't have gone and watched him. So it's the money.

Edited August 10, 2010 by eFestivals

[ampersand]

southgate wanting to take over a top 6 club. he's a thicker man than we all realised.

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He can't move anywhere at all unless a team bids. Did Utd bid?

It seems pretty clear to me that Fergie watching him the other night was to say "run down your contract then sign for Utd".

He's a more than decent player, who is/was going to end up at one of the leading clubs. If a player like that is available for less than £10M - which is obviously is - then any of those leading clubs would put in a bid if they have the money and they're half confident of landing the player.

So either Utd don't have the money, or they've zero confidence of getting him regardless of what they might bid.... but if they had that zero confidence of getting him, Fergie wouldn't have gone and watched him. So it's the money.

[Cardboard Box City]

southgate wanting to take over a top 6 club. he's a thicker man than we all realised.

[Jaybles]

He can't move anywhere at all unless a team bids. Did Utd bid?

It seems pretty clear to me that Fergie watching him the other night was to say "run down your contract then sign for Utd".

He's a more than decent player, who is/was going to end up at one of the leading clubs. If a player like that is available for less than £10M - which is obviously is - then any of those leading clubs would put in a bid if they have the money and they're half confident of landing the player.

So either Utd don't have the money, or they've zero confidence of getting him regardless of what they might bid.... but if they had that zero confidence of getting him, Fergie wouldn't have gone and watched him. So it's the money.

[ampersand]

The Villa fans were always singing his name when we played them

[Cardboard Box City]

i'm sure gazza would do a fantastic job at spurs too when harry leaves.

[ampersand]

You missed the sarcasm.

[Cardboard Box City]

was poor sarcasm. often players get a good reception when returning to their former club.

[ampersand]

Do they get that when they left saying they were a shit team going nowhere?

[eFestivals]

Or he decided he didnt want to make a bid after watching him at Fulham....Or he was there watching how Fulham are playing as they were a bogey team last season and Utd play them early on.

Both possible I guess, but not the opinion in just about all press reports which commented on him watching that match.

You only have to see the posts in this very thread to see the strong hopes of Utd fans in landing him, so I doubt there were even many Utd fans (before today at least) who didn't think Fergie was there specifically to watch Ozil.

[The Nal]

He can't move anywhere at all unless a team bids. Did Utd bid?

It seems pretty clear to me that Fergie watching him the other night was to say "run down your contract then sign for Utd".

He's a more than decent player, who is/was going to end up at one of the leading clubs. If a player like that is available for less than £10M - which is obviously is - then any of those leading clubs would put in a bid if they have the money and they're half confident of landing the player.

So either Utd don't have the money, or they've zero confidence of getting him regardless of what they might bid.... but if they had that zero confidence of getting him, Fergie wouldn't have gone and watched him. So it's the money.

[Cardboard Box City]

You know, I cant remember the last few times we played Chesterfield... Oh yes I can!

• This is a repeat of the memorable 1997 FA Cup semi-final, when the sides shared six goals after extra time at Old Trafford. Middlesbrough won the replay 3-0 at Hillsborough.

[TheGayTent]

You got lucky

[Jaybles]

Both possible I guess, but not the opinion in just about all press reports which commented on him watching that match.

You only have to see the posts in this very thread to see the strong hopes of Utd fans in landing him, so I doubt there were even many Utd fans (before today at least) who didn't think Fergie was there specifically to watch Ozil.

[Cardboard Box City]

You got lucky

[eFestivals]

Well this is the official word from Ferguson, after the Charity shield game

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6301403,00.html

I'd not seen reports of those comments previously, so perhaps that's how it is.

Then again, Fergie has never been scared of telling porkies, so perhaps it isn't. The porkie telling is a part of the problem all round.