UK Politics

[steviewevie]

45 minutes ago, Neil said:

do they get a vote in both places?

 

yeah, not sure how that works. I was a student in 92 and can't remember where or even if I voted. I assume I did, but can't remember.

[steviewevie]

Good old Nige...loves this country so much he's off trying to make it in the US.

[zahidf]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Good old Nige...loves this country so much he's off trying to make it in the US.

More money grifting in the US

[zahidf]

So, predictions for election result? ( serious answers only)

 

I reckon Labour majority of around 75

[steviewevie]

Just now, zahidf said:

So, predictions for election result? ( serious answers only)

 

I reckon Labour majority of around 75

 

hmm. that's a good prediction. I will go for Labour majority of 100.

[steviewevie]

Now thinking I may have jinxed it. 

Labour majority of 5.

[steviewevie]

Hung parliament with Labour largest party.

[steviewevie]

f**k it, Tory landslide.

[philipsteak]

14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yeah, not sure how that works. I was a student in 92 and can't remember where or even if I voted. I assume I did, but can't remember. 

 

Think you can be registered in both places but obviously only vote in one. 

Although with it not being in term time, would guess that's not the case time around

[Neil]

12 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I reckon Labour majority of around 64

 

[Neil]

20 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

they're probably getting a lot more votes because of Gaza than anything else.

with a bit of anti-Semitism thrown in for good measure.

[kaosmark2]

@Neil

With regards to the Greens in Bristol:

Like with any upcoming party, they've let a bunch of cranks in with minimal vetting. My (our?) Green candidate is an anti-semitic crank - Source - but there's also been a bunch of problems of Bristol Labour spouting racist remarks.

 

I know you know this, but there's also a lot of local resentment towards the local Labour party for enabling Marvin Rees, and all of his corruption and grandstanding. He's also taken funding from the Merchant Venturers, both directly and indirectly. There's also been a lot of backroom deals by both him and George Ferguson with a lot of the businesses in the Harbourside - many of which are owned/have ties to the SMV - and he repressed a report into this along with the Labour councillors - source.

 

I have quite a bit of time and respect for Thangam Debonnaire, but I also have time and respect for Carla Denyer. I think there's plenty of valid criticism that can be made of the Greens - particularly nationally and the NIMBYism they've used to take Tory votes - but I think she'd do more work to push for positive progressive policies than another Labour MP toeing the party line. If I were still in Bristol Central I'd vote for her.

 

I think it's a real shame that the Bristol East Green candidate is a crank. There's quite a lot of local coucillors I respect - moreso than for Bristol Labour - but they've chosen a candidate that there's no way I'll endorse. I don't have any problem with Kerry McCarthy, but I'm pretty disgusted with Starmer and Streeting. I'm not being tribal at all, I just want to vote for a left-wing candidate who isn't racist, and I think Starmer is enabling and encouraging racism and xenophobia so as to appeal to a type of voter that mostly only exists in his head. The bigger the party, the more a vote for their local candidate is also an endorsement of the leader and national message.

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

13 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

time and respect for Carla Denyer.

did you happen to hear her lies on radio four this morning, claiming that sewerage overflow is the result of privatisation (surely she's not that poorly informed of the facts) and the greens will fix it, I'd love to see the costings for that.

[Neil]

16 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

and I think Starmer is enabling and encouraging racism and xenophobia so as to appeal to a type of voter that mostly only exists in his head

the greens are doing that too, with the Bristol east candidate. with an inference onto the voters for what they think.("because they're brown skinned, they'll like the anti-semite")

[Neil]

3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Good old Nige...loves this country so much he's off trying to make it in the US.

he's probably been offered some more Russian gold.

[kaosmark2]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

did you happen to hear her lies on radio four this morning, claiming that sewerage overflow is the result of privatisation (surely she's not that poorly informed of the facts) and the greens will fix it, I'd love to see the costings for that.

 

It partially is though? Privatisation has meant that companies are taking money out as dividends that should have gone into infrastructure. It's led to multiple individual monopolies around the country while rich foreign owners pocket bill-payers money. Even Rees-Mogg has said they should be seized back without pay to the owners!

 

Fixing it is a nightmare, and isn't as simple as renationalisation. However renationalisation and improvement of the water companies can more realistically meet the public's expectations than renationalising the trains could.

[kaosmark2]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

the greens are doing that too, with the Bristol east candidate. with an inference onto the voters for what they think.("because they're brown skinned, they'll like the anti-semite")

 

Yep. Every single political party is doing it. I don't like it from anyone and I'm criticising them all. As I said, I'm not being tribal, I just want to vote for someone campaigning for left-wing policies who isn't racist. It's a disappointingly difficult bar.

[zahidf]

Man of the people

[zahidf]

Swinney making the SNP vote against sanctions for Michael Matheson is a great start to their campaign!

[steviewevie]

Looks like the anti smoking thing won't happen now.

[kaosmark2]

9 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Swinney making the SNP vote against sanctions for Michael Matheson is a great start to their campaign!

 

I see the SNP vote collapsing down to around a dozen seats actually. I think without Sturgeon, and having gone back to Swinney but giving Forbes a prominent position, they're in negative momentum and their failures will stand out more than their successes.

[steviewevie]

Sunak going to keep banging on about Rwanda during this campaign.

[Crazyfool01]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Sunak going to keep banging on about Rwanda during this campaign.

and not a flight to be seen 🙂 

[Neil]

5 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:

 

Yep. Every single political party is doing it. I don't like it from anyone and I'm criticising them all. As I said, I'm not being tribal, I just want to vote for someone campaigning for left-wing policies who isn't racist. It's a disappointingly difficult bar.

thangam