UK Politics

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1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

He mentions islands of strangers speech as part of the criticism. Streeting definitely more liberal when comes to internationalism and immigration....but obviously he's dodgy evil man who wants to sell off the NHS to the zionist tech barons, something like that anyway.

 

Can't see him winning back the red wall with that letter. Pitching a return to Blairism at the moment feels like a socialist campaigning in 1990 just after the Berlin wall fell.

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My main memory of Withington was the many nights spent in the cinema, sad to hear that both Withington cinema and 5th avenue don’t exist now!

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The cabinet need to step up and force Starmer to declare an exit timetable, by resignation if necessary.

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7 minutes ago, lazyred said:

The cabinet need to step up and force Starmer to declare an exit timetable, by resignation if necessary.

I'm sure lots of cabinet ministers like Reeves and Lammy would be against this as it would also be the exit (from cabinet) for them!

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53 minutes ago, xxialac said:

I'm sure lots of cabinet ministers like Reeves and Lammy would be against this as it would also be the exit (from cabinet) for them!

Some thoughts that Reeves may be kept on by candidates to appease the markets. Maybe the markets will have her chancellor forever!

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Farage massively contradicting himself over the 5 million gift for security / houses / donation for his 27 year service to brexit that’s non political . He’s gonna buckle 🙂 

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3 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

Some thoughts that Reeves may be kept on by candidates to appease the markets. Maybe the markets will have her chancellor forever!

I read that and some truth in it but Chancellors always get swapped in and out. 

 

I think Darren Jones would be well received by the markets but realistically the next appointment will be someone who has helped the Starmer-replacement get elected.

[steviewevie]

Burnham has a seat, somewhere called Makerfield...not sure how safe it is, be better off in mine because I would be out there campaigning for him.

Labour MP to stand down to allow Burnham run for byelection amid leadership row | Andy Burnham | The Guardian

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Sky news saying Gary Neville could replace Burnham as labours choice for Manchester mayor 🫤

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Just now, steviewevie said:

Burnham has a seat, somewhere called Makerfield...not sure how safe it is, be better off in mine because I would be out there campaigning for him.

Labour MP to stand down to allow Burnham run for byelection amid leadership row | Andy Burnham | The Guardian

It's near Wigan...Reform land. He should win, but well...who knows.

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4 minutes ago, lost said:

Sky news saying Gary Neville could replace Burnham as labours choice for Manchester mayor 🫤

that would cause meltdown amongst some .... tbh dont actually think hed be much good much as I dont mind some of his left based thoughts 

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Supposedly Josh Simons who gave up his seat for Burnham was a director of Labour Together (McSweeney think tank).

 

If this is the sort of person standing aside to help Burnham, does that undermine his left-wing credentials?

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4 hours ago, xxialac said:

Move Rayner in as Foreign Secretary maybe to give her an elite position? And then shift Cooper to Health?

Peston has mooted that the best move Starmer could make now (to keep her from running) is to give Rayner the Health job. Not that daft as she has a background in social care. However this was before the Burnham announcement.

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Pretty classy IMO to not take a dig back at him.

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Just now, sheffinghell said:

Peston has mooted that the best move Starmer could make now (to keep her from running) is to give Rayner the Health job. Not that daft as she has a background in social care. However this was before the Burnham announcement.

Surely she'll want one of the 4 offices of state. Health feels a downgrade from Deputy PM to me...

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5 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Surely she'll want one of the 4 offices of state. Health feels a downgrade from Deputy PM to me...

Deputy PM is decided by the membership, in terms of her cabinet role it had been Housing.

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3 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

Deputy PM is decided by the membership, in terms of her cabinet role it had been Housing.

Ah good point. Anyway, she's never had one of the Big 4 jobs, surely she expects one now.

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Will he actually win it though? 

BET NOW!

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It's Leave central round there, full of The Great Unwashed.

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What actually could happen...Burnham loses, Reform win Gtr Manc mayoralty, Starmer stays PM.

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12 minutes ago, lost said:

 

well, if Burnham wins there maybe he deserves a go at the top job.