news & politics:discussion

[Ozanne]

45 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

We'll see...

We shall see Sir.

Brown has been working with Starmer’s Labour so I’d think this is part of a concerted effort to drop feed Labours policy.

It sounds like the package will be a fairly large intervention which will be good. 

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, Ozanne said:

We shall see Sir.

Brown has been working with Starmer’s Labour so I’d think this is part of a concerted effort to drop feed Labours policy.

It sounds like the package will be a fairly large intervention which will be good. 

or it's Brown going rogue because he's sick of Starmer not doing anything.

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, lost said:

This will probably be over well before labour get a sniff of power. Good chance we will be in deflation in 2 years time.

tenner?

[Ozanne]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

or it's Brown going rogue because he's sick of Starmer not doing anything.

 Nah, they’ve been working together. 

[Neil]

10 hours ago, lost said:

. Good chance we will be in deflation in 2 years time

no, businesses have been holding off price increases for ten years, now they've increased prices they're not going to drop them again.

[steviewevie]

13 minutes ago, Neil said:

no, businesses have been holding off price increases for ten years, now they've increased prices they're not going to drop them again.

they will if no one is buying.

Anyway, isn't the likeliest outcome that inflation will start to come down as recessions hit and unemployment rises...?

[lost]

17 minutes ago, Neil said:

no, businesses have been holding off price increases for ten years, now they've increased prices they're not going to drop them again.

Its a year on year calculation so say energy prices are £4266 during Jan 2023 are predicted. They only need to be say £4000 during Jan 2024 for it to be deflationary. I actually think central banks will reverse course if its starting to look like deflation but like covid 12 months ago we will be talking about something else when the next election is scheduled to happen.

[Neil]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

they will if no one is buying.

Anyway, isn't the likeliest outcome that inflation will start to come down as recessions hit and unemployment rises...?

businesses have ignored cost pressures for the last ten years, they can do it again, and will..

[Neil]

1 minute ago, lost said:

I actually think central banks will reverse course if its starting to look like deflation

i think you're right about that, only impacts on businesses with big loans, tho.

[Ozanne]

Keir Starmer to announce Labours cost of living plan tomorrow!

[steviewevie]

 

[fraybentos1]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

But Ozanne just assured us they were co-ordinated??

Pretty embarrassing from Labour tbh, so many open goals missed.

29 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Keir Starmer to announce Labours cost of living plan tomorrow!

Never has an exclamation mark done so much heavy lifting 

[Ozanne]

They would say that, I believe it’s part of the plan.

Edited August 11, 2022 by Ozanne

[steviewevie]

It's all very interesting what Brown or Starmer says, but in the grand scheme of things it means diddly squat because they're not in power.

[steviewevie]

...and as Lost says by time of next election will likely be a different set of problems...probably recessions, unemployment, and public services still fucked.

[Ozanne]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

It's all very interesting what Brown or Starmer says, but in the grand scheme of things it means diddly squat because they're not in power.

That’s the problem when people moan on about Labour not doing anything. Generally those people argue in bad faith and wouldn’t be happy with anything Labour offer. 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

That’s the problem when people moan on about Labour not doing anything. Generally those people argue in bad faith and wouldn’t be happy with anything Labour offer. 

I mean, I understand that Starmer has to say something, say what he'd do, has to make people notice him and feel confident he could do a better job, but he can kind of say any old shit because he's not PM. This is probably a relatively short term crisis, it's his plans for the mid and long term I want to hear about, and hopefully we will find out more at conference, if we can hear him and Reeves above all the protests.

[Ozanne]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I mean, I understand that Starmer has to say something, say what he'd do, has to make people notice him and feel confident he could do a better job, but he can kind of say any old shit because he's not PM. This is probably a relatively short term crisis, it's his plans for the mid and long term I want to hear about, and hopefully we will find out more at conference, if we can hear him and Reeves above all the protests.

I’m sure we will hear more. He’s given 2 press conferences this summer already outlining his plans. Did you catch those?

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I’m sure we will hear more. He’s given 2 press conferences this summer already outlining his plans. Did you catch those?

One was Growth Growth Growth. What was the other one?

[Ozanne]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

One was Growth Growth Growth. What was the other one?

It was ‘Re-energise Britain’. It’s on their YouTube channel. 

[Crazyfool01]

Corbyn was right is trending …. Discuss …. In fairness I think he was … but not sure how electable he was … 

 

 

ducks for cover 

Edited August 11, 2022 by crazyfool1

[Neil]

45 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

It's all very interesting what Brown or Starmer says, but in the grand scheme of things it means diddly squat because they're not in power.

not true, labour forced spaffer into a u-turn with a windfall tax.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

20 minutes ago, Neil said:

not true, labour forced spaffer into a u-turn with a windfall tax.

I guess so.

[steviewevie]

21 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Corbyn was right is trending …. Discuss …. In fairness I think he was … but not sure how electable he was … 

 

 

ducks for cover 

he was right about what?