news & politics:discussion

[Neil]

1 minute ago, stuie said:

What about all your past flying holidays? Do they not count?

 

so long ago they're ancient history. i'm not adding to the problems by doing it now.

 

 

[Skip997]

2 minutes ago, stuie said:

What about all your past flying holidays? Do they not count?

And I’m not buying the no increase in emissions bit either… why would anyone go and stay on a yacht that’s not going to move at all? 

People don't seem to understand emissions.

They're not just from moving a plane/boat/van etc. They also include manufacture, use of and disposal of.

[Neil]

1 minute ago, stuie said:

He could see them because I quoted them… and took screenshots because they were full of slander and untruths as it happens.  

truths about him slagging Israel for something he's invented, but not slagging Hamas for publicly stating the same.

you're embarrassed cos you gave him a free pass.

[fraybentos1]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

 

so long ago they're ancient history. i'm not adding to the problems by doing it now.

 

 

You’re not adding to it but you are going to a mega yacht in the summer. Glad we’ve cleared that up.

 

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

at least i see things while they whoosh past you.

Haha. Neil you’re the most wrong person I’ve ever met. You haven’t been right about anything on these forums since about 2016.

[Skip997]

2 minutes ago, stuie said:

He could see them because I quoted them… and took screenshots because they were full of slander and untruths as it happens.  

It's a serious thing to be accusing people of supporting a prescribed terrorist organisation.

[Neil]

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

 you are going to a mega yacht in the summer. Glad we’ve cleared that up.

are you smart enough to say how that increases my carbon footprint????

[Neil]

1 minute ago, Skip997 said:

It's a serious thing to be accusing people of supporting a prescribed terrorist organisation.

you have been, and you claimed Israel intends to clear gaza, but you never commented on hamas saying they intend to clear israel.

[fraybentos1]

Just now, Neil said:

are you smart enough to say how that increases my carbon footprint????

Just cause you’re on the yacht for free, it’s not make you innocent. 
 

If I am offered a free ride on a private jet it’s the same principle. 
 

You’re just a massive stubborn hypocrite who would argue black is white. You’ve always been like this on here but it’s gone 100x since you are bored every day.

[stuie]

6 minutes ago, Neil said:

so long ago they're ancient history. i'm not adding to the problems by doing it now.

So you got to go to America but we can’t? Ok got it. I guess I’ll have to go stay on a non moving yacht for some reason then. 

[steviewevie]

Not sure about this it's all the medias fault for Labour changing the policy. They came up with it and shouted it from the rooftops...Reeves and her I'll be the green chancellor speech, and now they are changing it because financial/political reason, but this isn't being driven soley by the media. 

[steviewevie]

4.7bn is the new 28bn.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Not sure about this it's all the medias fault for Labour changing the policy. They came up with it and shouted it from the rooftops...Reeves and her I'll be the green chancellor speech, and now they are changing it because financial/political reason, but this isn't being driven soley by the media. 

I’ve also said they made a mistake by costing the policy in the first place.

[Guest]

It’s funny that the announcement today is literally just that Labour won’t spend £28b every year which we knew anyway. People were getting so excited for something that isn’t even new. They even say they remain committed to the ideas in the Green Prosperity Plan so hopefully now people can finally move on instead of endlessly moaning about £28b. 

[steviewevie]

Green Party will be pleased with this uturn.

[steviewevie]

but still...Labour can blame the Tories for crashing the economy...and I expect some of that will cut through.

[fred quimby]

47 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

You're saying:

"do what the media tells them to because the media has an impact"

while also repeatedly saying

"The media is going to attack Labour and let the Tories off"

Either Labour should be playing the media game better than this, or they should be taking a stand against it. I think they're so cautious it's leading to incompetence in messaging. Simultaneously, that incompetence makes them appear as unprincipled.

Out of upvotes

Edited February 8, 2024 by fred quimby

[Skip997]

Barry must have written something incredibly outrageous

[Crazyfool01]

My old man visited at lunchtime .... never going to vote Labour again on this , fortunately we live in a Lib Dem constituency so wont have the need to . final straw for him today , suggest it might be for others too . Lets see if it impacts the polls 

[Skip997]

Is there still a Labour party, as I understand them, to vote for?

Anyway Green Party all the way

[fred quimby]

7 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Barry must have written something incredibly outrageous

Ha indeed. Never going to know, and fair enough I guess. 

[steviewevie]

must admit my vote is wavering. In the end my priority is getting the Tories out, so that would be vote tactically...but I live in a safe labour seat so I could do anything I want really..might vote Reform for the lols. But, I also could vote Green, who won't win where I am...but at least I could say I voted Green. In the end I probably won't, I just want to confirm the removal of the tories...and actually..whisper it...I quite like Starmer, and despite not liking this uturn I think he has explained some of the reasoning quite well.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Is there still a Labour party, as I understand them, to vote for?

Anyway Green Party all the way

I thought what the U.K. does won’t change anything?

[Guest]

Here’s some of Labours green policies.

[fred quimby]

So part of the £28bn is actually £10bn pledged by the tories i understand, only heard that today in reports. 

Wonder if they could have used an "on top " figure. 

The growth angle has not been mentioned much in the past few days.

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, fred quimby said:

So part of the £28bn is actually £10bn pledged by the tories i understand, only heard that today in reports. 

Wonder if they could have used an "on top " figure. 

The growth angle has not been mentioned much in the past few days.

 

It was £8b so was technically only an extra £20b but the £28b has gone now so it doesn’t matter anyway. 

Edited February 8, 2024 by Ozanne