Glamping at glastonbury

[Size9]

I say no. I've met a lot of the rich, very very few of them have deserved better - most of them are horrendous people.

That's a stupid thing to say. I've met horrendous people from all social strata.

[frostypaw]

That's a stupid thing to say. I've met horrendous people from all social strata.

Why is it stupid?

I've met horrendous people from all walks of life too, but the wealthy I have met have not fared well proportionately. Their horrendousness is often more off-hand and at a distance, but not always and it's not endeared them to me. I have huge respect for those not corrupted by money and power - it's much easier to tread on little people when they look like ants from where you've lofted yourself

[Size9]

It just sounds like an extraordinary generalisation. I've also met loads of "the rich" as you call them and most of them are perfectly fine.

[frostypaw]

It just sounds like an extraordinary generalisation. I've also met loads of "the rich" as you call them and most of them are perfectly fine.

All depends on how they got that position best I can tell. Most of the old money is quite sound, but the new ones are all over the shop. Business practises aren't nice these days, if they ever really were, and there are some very pleasant people 'allowing' some really quite unpleasant things to maintain their position with an alarming level of disinterest and care.

[grumpyhack]

Some of the 'rich' aren't rich so much as older 'ordinary' people who were lucky enough to grow up and start their working careers when there were far more properly paid jobs as opposed to minimum wage/unpaid internships.

I'm very glad that I'm getting toward the end of my working life/career and I feel desperately sorry for people of my daughters' generation - especially if they plan on a career in the public sector.

[fatyeti24]

All depends on how they got that position best I can tell. Most of the old money is quite sound, but the new ones are all over the shop. Business practises aren't nice these days, if they ever really were, and there are some very pleasant people 'allowing' some really quite unpleasant things to maintain their position with an alarming level of disinterest and care.

Deary me. You might want to question where 'old money' came from. Business practices today seem quaint in comparison.

[Size9]

Okay. Your opinion is your opinion. From listening to some people on this thread though all people who stay offsite during the festival are minted tossers who use it as a status symbol and wave it in the faces of the "great unwashed" who stay onsite. This has not been my experience.

At all.

[Crystal Waters]

I'm a Glastonbury newbie but not a festival newbie. I'm not convinced that a campervan offsite/pre erected bell tent etc is the "problem" ...... Had hired a campervan for Glastonbury (and will again). Slept in it. Had a shower (sorry!) went to onsite toilets but hovered not because somebody else's backside had been on it - because they had left their excrement on and around it. Went on site for 14 hours a day. Loved every minute. We confess to chairs on Sunday afternoon but at the back of the Pyramid field because we are considerate of other people. Didn't take a flag but loved them even though they blocked the view a bit..... I think it's about give and take. It may sound corny but I loved the diversity of Glastonbury. The variety of it all. And we took all of our stuff home. We left no trace on Worthy Farm.

I guess I'm one of the ordinary people grumpy hack mentioned. Not minted. And I hope my values don't make me a tosser.

[mr gumby]

I'm a Glastonbury newbie but not a festival newbie. I'm not convinced that a campervan offsite/pre erected bell tent etc is the "problem" ...... Had hired a campervan for Glastonbury (and will again). Slept in it. Had a shower (sorry!) went to onsite toilets but hovered not because somebody else's backside had been on it - because they had left their excrement on and around it. Went on site for 14 hours a day. Loved every minute. We confess to chairs on Sunday afternoon but at the back of the Pyramid field because we are considerate of other people. Didn't take a flag but loved them even though they blocked the view a bit..... I think it's about give and take. It may sound corny but I loved the diversity of Glastonbury. The variety of it all. And we took all of our stuff home. We left no trace on Worthy Farm.

I guess I'm one of the ordinary people grumpy hack mentioned. Not minted. And I hope my values don't make me a tosser.

Try not to take too much notice of the inverted snobbery on these forums, it's 8 months until the next Glastonbury and some people struggle to fill the time!

No issue with a campervan, no issue with you having a shower, no issue with chairs (if you put them back a bit), no issue even with you hovering if someone has already crapped all over the place.

The only issue I have really, is your username, because it puts the most annoying 'song' ever into my head every time I see it!

[Thearg]

It's funny how the campervan fields get washed over,I've stayed at WV and it's not posh at all up there,the same mix as inside the fence tbh,not so many 18-25 year olds as they probably can't afford it but we stayed in the campervan fields this year and there is a lot of hoorays up there,It felt like I could've been gearing up for the hunt,saying that our immediate neighbours who were obviously posh and had a very nice motorhome were not up their own arses at all, we all sat round and had drinks together and a good old crack,people are people some are arseholes some are not.

[Crystal Waters]

Sorry about the name. It was after a bar I was in at the time, not the music !

[midnight]

Dear Crystal Waters,

I don't know whether this helps, but for what it is worth, I too am one of these "washers".

I have been going to the infamous Glastonbury festival since 1995 (so it is not only newbies who have that urge to wash, it seems), and every time I went I had a few washs, and in most years even a shower. I went about this rather innocently, for my own pleasure, as I don't feel very comfortable in my own skin if I haven't been able to wash for more than 2 days or so. I always used the facilities in the main areas, it is quite possible to do so, and I don't think I have ever paid more than £3 or so (to some guy who was running a sauna type thing at the far end of the Greenfields, if I remember correctly).

I am a bit disappointed to note that this habit has completely failed to make me young, pretty, glamorous or wealthy - apart from young (and that faded quickly), I've never been any of those things, and I am not getting any closer. Though there seems to be a belief in some circles that having a shower at Glastonbury makes you at least 2 or 3 of those things, but I think that's a superstition.

As for people who do not wish to wash for whatever reason, I have no problem with them. I'd be grateful if they did not have a problem with me either. But if they decide to think that it makes me a lesser festival participant who doesn't get the spirit of Glastonbury and wants to make them feel self-conscious or some such thing - so be it.

Yours sincerely

Midnight.

Edited October 22, 2014 by midnight

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

You are only a real Glastonbury aficionado if you cycle from Scotland to the festival wearing cilice garments. Once there you then need to lock your bicycle up and lash cilice wire chains to your legs. You should sleep in a bin bag and self flagellate as you walk anywhere on site. Failure to do this and you'll just not 'get' the festival. You should also look down on anybody who hasn't done this with the disdain they deserve.

[LondonTom]

Okay. Your opinion is your opinion. From listening to some people on this thread though all people who stay offsite during the festival are minted tossers who use it as a status symbol and wave it in the faces of the "great unwashed" who stay onsite. This has not been my experience.

Not all....just most of them. (I'd imagine most are minted.)

ent to onsite toilets but hovered not because somebody else's backside had been on it - because they had left their excrement on and around it.

The general point about hovering, is this is actually mostly what causes crap on the seats. Why didn't you use another toilet? Jesus even at T in The Park, I managed to find a toilet within a couple of minutes where I could sit down to lay my log in the bowl!

Edited October 22, 2014 by LondonTom

[___S_o_m_a__]

went to onsite toilets but hovered not because somebody else's backside had been on it - because they had left their excrement on and around it.

I think you should have cleaned it up. Very inconsiderate of you.

[frostypaw]

Okay. Your opinion is your opinion. From listening to some people on this thread though all people who stay offsite during the festival are minted tossers who use it as a status symbol and wave it in the faces of the "great unwashed" who stay onsite. This has not been my experience.

At all.

actually almost everyone's said is just some of those people, not all, but the sensitivity makes me wonder which tax bracket applies

Plus do consider context - if you're well off and everyone's well off it doesn't show. The other folk in the festival scrounging every penny just don't even register as part of the scale

[midnight]

You are only a real Glastonbury aficionado if you cycle from Scotland to the festival wearing cilice garments. Once there you then need to lock your bicycle up and lash cilice wire chains to your legs. You should sleep in a bin bag and self flagellate as you walk anywhere on site. Failure to do this and you'll just not 'get' the festival. You should also look down on anybody who hasn't done this with the disdain they deserve.

You make it all sound so easy......