Football 2013-2014

[thetime]

He's on a new 5 year deal right?

[eFestivals]

Depends how much they over pay these player I suppose, didn't yaya toure join city when they were only in Europa league?

but he was at a club that didn't want him.

It's not the same with Cesc and Kroos.

[ThomThomDrum]

The only thing players will respond to is action. Stern words prior to the game won't mean anything when they push the refs and find out that the stern words aren't backed up. They shouldn't need warning prior to the game, they should be punished consistently in line with the rules with clear explanation when it does occur.

[Wooderson]

Doesn't mean anything does it? Just means they would go for top dollar.

[thetime]

Utd should cash in so. 25/30 mill?

[eFestivals]

They won't cash in.

they might not have much choice.

Has Welbeck withdrawn his transfer request yet? Or is he outside of the Giggs love-in?

[ThomThomDrum]

6 minutes of Diego Maradona skills (shame about some of the quality)

Man this is what ball is all about. The goal at about 3min in its simply ridiculous!

[thetime]

they might not have much choice.

Has Welbeck withdrawn his transfer request yet? Or is he outside of the Giggs love-in?

[Wooderson]

They won't cash in.

[pink_triangle]

I cant see Barcelona selling Fabregas with a possible transfer ban hanging over them in the next transfer window. As for Man Utd missing out on champions league effects their pull to some extent, but i dont think its a given players will choose Arsenal and (particularly) Liverpool over them.

[thetime]

6 minutes of Diego Maradona skills (shame about some of the quality)

Man this is what ball is all about. The goal at about 3min in its simply ridiculous!

http://youtu.be/DBAqGhqZq_M

[ThomThomDrum]

Best footballer to grace a field in my opinion. Pretty much won the World Cup on his own in 1986, wonderful player.

[Wooderson]

I cant see Barcelona selling Fabregas with a possible transfer ban hanging over them in the next transfer window. As for Man Utd missing out on champions league effects their pull to some extent, but i dont think its a given players will choose Arsenal and (particularly) Liverpool over them.

[thetime]

Shame he did not play in the HD TV era.

Messi and Zidane are the only other two I have seen that come close (Way too young to really comment on Pele and from what I have seen he was a very different style of player)

[Wooderson]

Most of us can't really comment on Pele, it's more what other people say. Only part of me that discounts Pele is he was in a very good team full of stars, the 1970 was perhaps the best international team of all time.

People talk about the barca side being the best club side ever to play football and I am unsure about that. I could make a case of the Juventus side of the mid 90s the best club side I've seen which included Zidane.

[eFestivals]

Why wouldn't united have a choice? You still saying they have no money and are going to plummet down the leagues?

Because it's very difficult to hang on to a player who wants to leave.

And I've never said "they have no money and are going to plummet down the leagues".

[eFestivals]

I cant see Barcelona selling Fabregas with a possible transfer ban hanging over them in the next transfer window. As for Man Utd missing out on champions league effects their pull to some extent, but i dont think its a given players will choose Arsenal and (particularly) Liverpool over them.

it's a combination of things, including how likely a player is to get a game at the clubs offering them a contract.

What we can be certain of tho is that Utd's draw is less than it was. CL footie makes a difference.

[thetime]

I'd take that late 1980's post Burlusconi Milan side over the Lippi Juventus team.

[thetime]

What we can be certain of tho is that Utd's draw is less than it was. CL footie makes a difference.

[The Nal]

Pretty much won the World Cup on his own in 1986, wonderful player.

[DomDom1984]

I think United will still have a pull for a short time, but they have to do something next season I think. Liverpool and City were both clubs with big ambition who fully believed they could go further, and Man United are a massive club who SHOULD be in the CL and aren't, and thus there's every possibility they'll be there next season.

If they spend two seasons out though, some serious problems will hit them as far as attracting players goes.

[Essex_George]

I know we say that a lot and I tend to agree, have we any facts though to back it up. I'm trying to think of players joining a team due to champions league football.

For example Toure joining city when they had no champions league football, Suarez stopping when Liverpool didn't have champions league football, Rooney signing a contract when it was obvious united wasn't going to be in it.

[Wooderson]

Good shout, people forget what a great player ruud gullet was.

[thetime]

I think United will still have a pull for a short time, but they have to do something next season I think. Liverpool and City were both clubs with big ambition who fully believed they could go further, and Man United are a massive club who SHOULD be in the CL and aren't, and thus there's every possibility they'll be there next season.

If they spend two seasons out though, some serious problems will hit them as far as attracting players goes.

Edited April 29, 2014 by thetime

[The Nal]

On paper that is just a staggering side.

Edited April 29, 2014 by The Nal