Football 2011-2012

[strummer77]

Liverpool & Everton are playing twice?

[The Nal]

Any predictions for this weekends set of games then?

Edited March 9, 2012 by The Nal

[Ed209]

On the international side of things... I'm unsure. The Champions League is a higher standard of football nowadays and he's more than capable there. If he did win the World Cup though it would certainly be hard to find a way to criticise him though!

Edited March 9, 2012 by Ed209

[thetime]

Liverpool & Everton are playing twice?

[thetime]

On the international side of things... I'm unsure. The Champions League is a higher standard of football nowadays and he's more than capable there. If he did win the World Cup though it would certainly be hard to find a way to criticise him though!

[eFestivals]

Guarantee you every one of them will be totally wrong.

that would be my predictions.

[kaosmark2]

Oh extremely important. Yeah, we were 1-0 down took the DM off in an attempt to grab a late late equaliser. They scored soon after. We were good in that final mind. Just conceded that odd goal just before HT.

Oh and here's a video for those doubting Messi could do it in a more physical league. The boy can hold his own.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFZ-29w2uqk&feature=player_embedded#!

[kaosmark2]

Bolton 1-1 QPR

Villa 1-1 Fulham

Chelsea 2-0 Stoke

Sunderland 0-1 Liverpool

Wolves 1-3 Blackburn

Everton 1-1 Spurs

Man United 3-1 West Brom

Swansea 1-2 City

Norwich 4-1 Wigan

Arsenal 3-1 Newcastle

Liverpool 1-1 Everton

Not trying to a Lawro with all the 1-1s, genuinely think it'll turn out that way! Don't think many teams defences are up to much either.

[pink_triangle]

If Messi can take that Argentina side to winning the world cup then he's certainly up there, but for me, you have to prove it on the international stage as well as the club, just like Pele, Maradonna and Zidane did.

[strummer77]

The world cup final is still by far the biggest match in football, people will watch the world cup final because it is the premier match in world football. If you get a champions league final without an english club such as porto v monaco, or inter v bayern the tv ratings in the uk are pretty rubbish. The world cup is still in my opinion the tournament that a player would choose over any other because it makes them legends in a county and not just a club. I still believe in terms of a player having a long term legacy the world cup is the place to be, the fact its every four years make them more memorbale and prestigious.

[pink_triangle]

Oh don't get me wrong. Not criticising the World Cup, just think there's a lot of luck involved with performing well at a World Cup so doesn't necessarily mean its logically the barometer of a great player- even if romantically it is. For example you can be lumped with poor squads, poor managers (MARADONA!) or injuries and if you only get a couple of goes at it you may never really be at your best

[strummer77]

I suppose any cup tournament has an element of luck, you go through past champions league winners and probably a significant amount were not the best team in europe at the time. Look at the 2 liverpool v milan finals, Im pretty certain neither teams would have been european champions if it was a league and not cup format. The amazing thing about the world cup is despite the element of luck from a cup format, the right team nearly always seens to win.

Edited March 10, 2012 by strummer77

[lost]

Rafa being a deluded c**t on MOTD, after a feature on Moyes acheiving 10 years at one club in the premership including part which mentioned Everton finishing above Liverpool one year to get the final champions legaue place on much lower resources, he goes onto explain how Liverpool don't have greater resources and it would of been nice to be at a club like Moyes where the chairman supported him.

[Ed209]

How much did Benitez spend at Liverpool!? He's talking out his arse.

I'd like to see Moyes given a shot at one of the big spending clubs. Think he could really do a job for Chelsea, deserves the chance. Abramovic would never go for him though. Not glamourous enough

[strummer77]

Fucking dire. Worst since the Hodge era. Adam was woeful.

At least we played well last week. 2 wins in 11 is not good enough. Not calling for any heads or anything but seriously need to kick into gear sharpish.

Edited March 10, 2012 by strummer77

[strummer77]

I'd like to see Moyes given a shot at one of the big spending clubs. Think he could really do a job for Chelsea, deserves the chance. Abramovic would never go for him though. Not glamourous enough

[thetime]

As utd are in the europa cup(just), has there ever been a manager to win all 3 european trophies?

European cup/champions league

Cup winners cup

Fairs/uefa/europa

Im sure paisley only won euro cup and uefa.

[Kyelo]

As utd are in the europa cup(just), has there ever been a manager to win all 3 european trophies?

European cup/champions league

Cup winners cup

Fairs/uefa/europa

Im sure paisley only won euro cup and uefa.

[strummer77]

As utd are in the europa cup(just), has there ever been a manager to win all 3 european trophies?

European cup/champions league

Cup winners cup

Fairs/uefa/europa

Im sure paisley only won euro cup and uefa.

Edited March 10, 2012 by strummer77

[thetime]

Nope don't think so. Paisley probably never even competed in the Cup Winners Cup.

What managers have even won the two that still exist? Can't be a huge number that have. Rafa and Mourinho in the modern game. Who else?

[thetime]

2 managers have won all 3.

Lattek and trappatoni.

[strummer77]

Fergie

[thetime]

Hasn't won the UEFA.

[lost]

good result for Everton and a derby win mid-week would put them above Liverpool. Feared the worst when top scorer Beckford and play maker Arteta went in the summer without being replaced but probably safe for another year now.

Edited March 10, 2012 by lost

[thetime]

good result for Everton and a derby win mid-week would put them above Liverpool. Feared the worst when top scorer Beckford and play maker Arteta went in the summer without being replaced but probably safe for another year now.

Edited March 10, 2012 by thetime