Cast?

[russycarps]

I can see that. I guess I count the 80's over the 90's is because of Madchester, The Cure, American Glam Rock, the best bits of "alternative" / Seatlle based rock before it got sold to death, and when Bowie was last properly interesting, great rap music and acid house dance music. Lots of fusion stuff too.

But I can understand why someone would put the 90s above the 80s. Nothing compared to what went before, agreed.

[redmosquito]

I'm just waiting for other shit bands like space and bis to get back together.

On a 90's related topic I went to see The Levellers in Kendal recently and had suchva good night. They even had the lead singer from Chumba Wumba come on and do I get knocked down. I noticed though that they arw touring levelling the land next year with the wonder stuff supporting. Now thats a nostalgic tour i can get on board with!

[ethereal]

heh this is a conversation I have with my friends all the time in the pub (the tedious bores that we are) and my order of preference is usually

60s

70s

90s

80s

00s

The best music in the 2000s has come from artists who made their names in the 90s or earlier

[sifi]

The only really good thing about the 80's was Pixies who essentially set the scene for the 90's to a large degree.

[Lynne Scratch Perry]

For years, I'd have said 60s-70s-90s-80s-00s (well, ten years I guess!).

But thinking about it as I have recently, it's got to be 70s-60s-80s-90s-00s for me now.

The 70s started with the psyche movement ending, rapidly went through folk, rock, glam, disco, ska, funk and onto punk. That's just in 10 years. Granted, I'm not a fan of at least two of those.

The 80s, thanks to 'theme' pubs are sullied these days. But think of the groups who were around. Starting with Bad Manners/Madness/Specials, through Smiths/Cure/Housemartins and ending with Stone Roses/Carpets/Mondays and the house movement. Not to mention the Pixies/NWA and that lot.

The variety in those decades is stunning.

In the 90s we had basically four good movements and two of those (house/grunge) started in the 80s, with American punk harking back to the 70s. Britpop wasn't exactly groundbreaking (Smiths/Beatles/Kink influenced as it was). Although I did love living through it as a teenager.

The late 90s and 00s have been poor.

[BlackHole2006]

As a teenager growing up in this decade has been a little bit meh I must admit. There are some great new bands that stations like BBC 6 champion but they it's nothing completely mindblowing. I really tend to ignore most of the music in the charts today because they all sound the same to me but when I was younger I remember finding listening to charts music really exciting and would only listen to what was on the charts that week but now I have learned that you don't have to be told what to listen to by others and that it doesn't really matter what people think about the music you listen to as long as you enjoy it.

In my record collecion there are more bands from the 90's/80's than anything because that's the kind of music that I enjoy and I think that alot more was going on in those two decades then this one but saying that there was alot of shite in both of those decades just like this one.

[Troop Dogg]

I was a teenager in the nineties so thats my favourite era of music pretty much by default, but I genuinely can't see how many bands that have emerged in the 2000s (except Arcade Fire, Bon Iver etc) can be put in the same league as the likes of Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, Nine Inch Nails, Supergrass, Massive Attack, Portishead, Blur, Super Furries, Bjork, RATM etc etc. Or maybe I'm turning into my dad!

[sifi]

I doj't buy this "I was a child of decade X, so that's my favourite decade" line. My teenage years were in the 80s and 90s, but I don't think those eras had the creativity of earlier eras. That list of bands that Tropp Dogg has trotted out pails into insignificance compared to music that went before it.

[4AssedMonkey]

I'd say that 1996 was the last year I was properly into music and gigs before things started to tail off and pretty much all of my favourite albums date from about 85 to 96 (at the time I was 12 - 23 so the teens thing applies).

I remain a big music fan, but prior to 1996 it was my life. Then I stopped being excited by it. I now realise that the good stuff is always there, it's just not always obvious. I find it notoriously difficult to find good, new bands/artists these days as the mainstream media is overrun with absolute shite.

I disagree with anyone who says the 80's didn't produce good music. There was the Stock Aitken Waterman stable of w*nkstains to contend with and some real novelty crap around. On the other hand proper Indie music was born out of that decade and there were some incredible acts around, both on independent labels and mainstream. Depeche Mode, Tears for Fears, The Waterboys, whilst all being mainstream 80's had a high quality of output.

[stylishkids]

I see Cast are getting some stick on this thread. Tbh I thought they were half decent and I've got tickets to watch them on Wednesday at Leeds. I used to love All change and MNC when I was younger (about 8/9). I actually gave them a listen after I bought the tickets and if I'm honest they weren't as good as I remembered and haven't aged the greatest, but some songs on there such as finetime, walkaway, I'm so lonely are very good tracks. Hopefully they'll put on a good show.

90's was a great decade though. Manics, Oasis, Blur, R.E.M, Nirvava, Suede, Pulp, Radiohead. Some great bands and I'd actually say its the best decade. All opinions though.

Edited November 27, 2010 by stylishkids

[4AssedMonkey]

Whilst I don't doubt they were popular in the 90's at least 3 of those bands were formed earlier than 1990.

[stylishkids]

Whilst I don't doubt they were popular in the 90's at least 3 of those bands were formed earlier than 1990.

[Vieuphoria]

Every era has it's nostalgia moment, 5-10 years ago it was the 80's, now the 90's is long enough ago to become the latest nostalgia trip. It's quite nice for me - V96 was my first festival and it's nice to think I wasn't the only one who owned all the Shine compilations! I didn't really have the funds to go to a lot of gigs so it'll be nice to perhaps see some of these bands live for the first time. Kula Shaker were WAY ahead of the rest and their first reunion tour was bloody brilliant.

I'd love to see Mansun perform just for Wide Open Space. But back on subject, Cast were shite.

[4AssedMonkey]

Mansun were a great band. Would love to see them get back together

[Pinhead]

I'm just waiting for other shit bands like space and bis to get back together.

On a 90's related topic I went to see The Levellers in Kendal recently and had suchva good night. They even had the lead singer from Chumba Wumba come on and do I get knocked down. I noticed though that they arw touring levelling the land next year with the wonder stuff supporting. Now thats a nostalgic tour i can get on board with!

[Stu H]

ha - not a lot of love for Cast here !

They always did split opinion.

[fullfathom5]

I think the reason was that they weren't the La's and people considered Power as not a good songwriter as Mavers. Mavers is a legend, but then he's been unable to put anything out in 20 years, so does that make him better than Power? Personally I'd say they're on equal footing but for different reasons. The first 2 Cast albums have got some really good songs on and Power's solo stuff is top notch - very rootsy, similar to the La's in a way. Reports are that Mavers was watching at both of their Liverpool gigs this week, which I didn't expect. I just wish it'd prompt him to get off his arse and put the 2nd La's album out.

Edited December 2, 2010 by fullfathom5

[4AssedMonkey]

I just assumed (perhaps wrongly) that the La's split, rather than just Powers leaving, and that was the reason they never released anything else. If the La's are still effectively a band, then 20 years has to be a record gap between releases! Does that beat Kate Bush?

[fatyeti24]

I just assumed (perhaps wrongly) that the La's split, rather than just Powers leaving, and that was the reason they never released anything else. If the La's are still effectively a band, then 20 years has to be a record gap between releases! Does that beat Kate Bush?

[fullfathom5]

I saw Cast on Friday at Shepherds Bush and they were really good. That is all.