WikiLeaks

[5co77ie]

[philipsteak]

Ron Paul Defends WikiLeaks On House Floor

[RABun]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12011867

sounds like he could be extradited to the US. More worried about that than sex allegations in Sweden

[grumpyhack]

I watched Assange interviewed by Kirsty Wark on Newsnight and I'm afraid he didn't do himself a lot of good. He had lots of opportunities to answer direct questions with direct answers but instead responded with a lot of waffle. For someone campaigning on a platform of wanting to see more openness and transparency he was anything but himself. It was a shame as I applaud what he says he's trying to do but I don't rate him much as a frontman for his own organisation.

[rabid]

I watched Assange interviewed by Kirsty Wark on Newsnight and I'm afraid he didn't do himself a lot of good. He had lots of opportunities to answer direct questions with direct answers but instead responded with a lot of waffle. For someone campaigning on a platform of wanting to see more openness and transparency he was anything but himself. It was a shame as I applaud what he says he's trying to do but I don't rate him much as a frontman for his own organisation.

[5co77ie]

There's little news of it, as it's Belmarsh, in english but the Spanish press is saying that the Astrange trail has been moved to Belmarsh - Yesterday Howard Riddle decided to try the case of Julian Assange as a terrorism case!

http://www.pueblaonline.com.mx/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=8120:julian-assange-enjuiciado-como-terrorista

Translated:

Reuters meanwhile reported that the same vice president of the United States had requested the trial of Julian Assange as a terrorist.

The question pops up when Justice in London decided to take turns if the Belmarsh prison without explanation. "London will be giving in to U.S. pressure?"

So far neither the government in London or Assange attorneys have made statements. What is a fact is that the conditions under which prisoners are tried in Belmarsh are confidential. Not even make their cases public. Once you arrive at the prison do not know anything about them, it has been reported in a BBC interview.

[windy_miller]

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/02/the-guardian-201102?currentPage=all

n the afternoon of November 1, 2010, Julian Assange, the Australian-born founder of WikiLeaks.org, marched with his lawyer into the London office of Alan Rusbridger, the editor of The Guardian. <...snip...> his message was simple: he would sue the newspaper if it went ahead and published stories based on the quarter of a million documents that he had handed over to The Guardian just three months earlier.

[eFestivals]

According to the latest Private Eye (bear in mind they're probably best placed of any publisher to be in-general supportive of WikiLeaks), there's been an awful lot of bull said by both Assange and his supporters around the Sweden thing.

Apparently, Assange left Sweden at the end of September having promised to return on 14th Oct for a police interview. This is at odds with the claims that he's been happy to talk to them anyplace/anywhere but his offers have been refused.

Also, the claims that the Swedish prosecutor had thrown out the charges before they were re-instated is also apparently false. The reality is that rape charges were thrown out, but never the lesser charge of sexual assault.

And finally, it's been claimed that it's a disgrace that Assange was held in solitary confinement while on remand - yet he was held in solitary at his own request.

As ever, the old phrase that the first victim of war is the truth remains very true.

[jump]

The Swiss banker that gave loads of info about rich people avoiding taxes has been detained in Germany now...

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-01-20/baer-ex-banker-linked-to-wikileaks-detained-in-zurich.html

[TheGayTent]

What happened to our "special relationship"?

[eFestivals]

What happened to our "special relationship"?

it only every existed in British propaganda anyway. How has that passed you by?

[TheGayTent]

it only every existed in British propaganda anyway. How has that passed you by?

[RABun]

Information about every Trident missile the US supplies to Britain will be given to Russia as part of an arms control deal signed by President Barack Obama next week.

[eFestivals]

Miss the sarcasm did we?

I didn't think tories like you did sarcasm til I realised that their whole manifesto was being sarcastic.

[TheGayTent]

My sides ache.

[eFestivals]

My sides ache.

That's just the start. Very soon your bank account will be to, so that those earning £150k+ a year can have the tax cut they deserve.

Still, it's alright, eh?. There's nothing better for this country than to be ruled by the aristocracy, and for the oiks to have all their rights removed.

I'm wondering how soon it'll be until there's tories standing for parliament again on the slogan "if you want a nigger for a neighbour vote Liberal or Labour". It's only 13 years since the last one left, but that was in the days when the tory party was pretending to be a meritocracy for about 10 minutes.

[TheGayTent]

That's just the start. Very soon your bank account will be to, so that those earning £150k+ a year can have the tax cut they deserve.

Still, it's alright, eh?. There's nothing better for this country than to be ruled by the aristocracy, and for the oiks to have all their rights removed.

I'm wondering how soon it'll be until there's tories standing for parliament again on the slogan "if you want a nigger for a neighbour vote Liberal or Labour". It's only 13 years since the last one left, but that was in the days when the tory party was pretending to be a meritocracy for about 10 minutes.

[Paul ™]

it is when people find a way to bridge the gaps between those supposedly (but not in reality) isolated systems, which people DO succeed in doing.

The parts have direct connections (wires, if you like) between them, so it only takes one person to find a way to route traffic along those connections for it all to become 'a direct connection to the internet'.

While I'm not trying to suggest that routing traffic along those connections is an easy thing to do, it is always doable in some manner. There is no such thing and can never be so as a fully secure system.

But that wasn't what I was meaning - I was meaning stuff like the DMZ machines you mention. The normal situation for such things is that they have an external (net) connection, as well as connection via a different network card to the internal intRAnet. The machine can be bridged, and it happens more than you might imagine.

[eFestivals]

Sorry to bump this old debate, but found this interesting in relation to the last couple of pages

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thank you Paul.

If I'm remembering rightly, this was yet another of those cases where I got accused of talking out of my arse because I didn't provide a reference along with my knowledge.