US Presidential Election 2016

[ThomThomDrum]

North Carolina could be done early enough (say 1ish?) and so that will tell a lot. If Clinton wins its safe to go to bed. Trump wins and it could be a very long night

[greenfairy43]

46 minutes ago, bunique said:

I'm planning to stay on the sofa for as long as I can stay awake - booked the day off tomorrow.

In terms of predictions I have a similar niggling doubt to Nal about shy Trumpers (arf!) so am on tenterhooks for the result...

Tenterhooks?! 

 

I'm FUCKING terrified!

[pink_triangle]

I have put £10 on trump, so at least get a small bonus if the idiot wins.

[bunique]

Hmmm. Was looking smooth sailing for Clinton until the last half an hour where Trump seems to be leading in a few swing states - Florida, Ohio, Virginia... 

 

Hmmmmmmmmm. 

[atomised]

Looking less comfortable. Getting nervous

[CHRLY]

Clinton HQ is the scariest looking place ever, like something straight out of 1984

[atomised]

And so the dollar starts to drop in the markets as they open

[Spindles]

The cat is among the pigeons now.  Looking very likely that what most of the world considers the worst case scenario is going to happen.

[pink_triangle]

I suspect for all the panic, life will go on as before. Expectations are so low for Trump that he may surprise people. 

[bunique]

He's going to be up against a hostile senate and/or house of his "own" party. 

The bigger concern for me is not so much what he does, but what happens (much like with Brexit) when a couple of years down the line everything is still shit? Where do people direct their anger then other than at each other?

[zero000]

How utterly depressing . 2016, the year stupidity and bigotry won out.

[pink_triangle]

2 minutes ago, bunique said:

He's going to be up against a hostile senate and/or house of his "own" party. 

The bigger concern for me is not so much what he does, but what happens (much like with Brexit) when a couple of years down the line everything is still shit? Where do people direct their anger then other than at each other?

He won the election the only way he could, but I'm thinking he knows he loses some of those votes by not delivering on promise about building walls, banning muslims etc, hopefully that means a move to the centre.

[Spindles]

It very much depends on the people he puts in place I think. 

[CHRLY]

Incredible

[Mr.Tease]

I knew he'd win- same with brexit, once the undecideds started coming out for Trump it was all over. Fuck this shit. 

[eFestivals]

So it's not just Brits who've gone insane

[lost]

Beeb saying a lot of the millennial Bernie supporters didn't come out for Clinton.. Either didn't vote or went for people like Stein

[pink_triangle]

11 minutes ago, lost said:

Beeb saying a lot of the millennial Bernie supporters didn't come out for Clinton.. Either didn't vote or went for people like Stein

I think some will say Bernie would have won, I can't see it myself.  You wonder if Biden would have been a better option in a race where he would only have needed to flip one republivsn of every 100 voters.

For all the talk about the madness of the American voters, it's easy to see why the stale establishment Clinton was seem by some as the worst of 2 bad candidates. I'm sure some who voted Trump are not racist or sexist, but felt it was worth the roll of the dice.

Terrible day for the democrats not regaining the Senate and losing the chance to select a liberal judge on the supreme court. I hope they don't go the way of labour in reacting to the loss.

[eFestivals]

15 minutes ago, lost said:

Beeb saying a lot of the millennial Bernie supporters didn't come out for Clinton.. Either didn't vote or went for people like Stein

during the night they've been saying there's been a high rural turnout, and that's whrere the Trump votes have come from.

It sounds much like brexit, people voting who don't normally vote, and enough of them to make all the predictions wrong.

And Corbyn thinks that's his route too, yet he can't even get his own party to turnout and vote.

 

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

 

I think some will say Bernie would have won, I can't see it myself.

 

I can.

Trump hasn't won because he's particularly popular, but because Clinton is hated.

Likewise Farage won brexit, not because people loved him but because idjuts fell for Cameron being 'the worst govt ever' that self-absorbed Labourites liked to dribble on every occasion they could.

I'm guessing Sturgeon is going to announce indyref2 today, she'd be mad not to ... the question is, is Scotland as stupid as everywhere else.

[Mr.Tease]

31 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

So it's not just Brits who've gone insane

People are making emotional decisions (which tend to be short term needs), which means they will filter all logical info to fit that need and anything that doesn't fit,  they'll deny or choose not to think about. It's like the mantra 'keep manufacturing jobs in america', sounds great but notice how they don't seem to think 'erm, won't that mean that the price of the goods we like to buy will sky rocket?' 

Plus they genuinely think immigrants are to blame for all their woes. 

I expect Trump to quietly ditch all his promises (wall, ban on Muslims, jailing hillary, ending free market economics) like the brexit folk did, and as with brexit supporters, his voters will still lap it up.  

[zahidf]

Beginning of the end of western society. I expect WW3 in the next decade or so

[Amy Lawn]

Fuck's going on then? They didn't actually vote for the joke candidate did they?

[pink_triangle]

9 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

I can.

Trump hasn't won because he's particularly popular

I wouldn't disagree with why trump won, but I think the American electorate would plump for a nasty right winger above a self proclaimed socialist any day.

[Mr.Tease]

1 minute ago, pink_triangle said:

I wouldn't disagree with why trump won, but I think the American electorate would plump for a nasty right winger above a self proclaimed socialist any day.

No one knows any more what people will vote for