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Perhaps, but they'll obviously crunch the metrics and numbers.

 

I may be underestimating their appeal, but SOAD don't strike me as a band who could sell out Wembley Stadium on their own back, or even London Stadium. Tottenham, with twenty-thousand less punters, feels believable mind you, and I guess they'll come with a big-name support act a la these big shows in America.

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I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's possible. They don't play often here at all, and live music is bigger than it's been for a good while, and theyre definitely a big band. Them shifting the tickets isn't out of the question. 

 

I'd rather they turn up at DL as I'd be more likely to see them.

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13 hours ago, losing43 said:

I mentioned Amyl supporting Turnstile because you said they wouldn’t go well before Turnstile, I was just proving that they absolutely would do. 

 

I don’t even understand your point in regards to Oasis.

 

They would be a great match, following Turnstiles newest album which is on the ‘lighter’ side of hardcore. Again, your point about Papa Roach is irrelevant to what I was saying. I just think Paramore / Turnstile / Amyl would be a great trio at DL, I’m not saying any of them would be booked soon.

 

Is this what life is like here after DL forums closing…

 

I dont think they would go down well but I'll give the album a listen. I mentioned other stuff because a support act on a tour and in fact a collaboration doesn't mean it's a good thing. As I said, Megadeth before Disturbed on tour, why?, no interest in Megadeth there and likewise many interested in Megadeth won't care for Disturbed.

 

The Oasis point is that he covers a our 85% of Oasis on his own tours and he had Amyl as support at Knebworth. So if he can have Amyl while singing 85% of Oasis songs and either way certainly songs not sounding like Amyl then why couldn't Turnstile support Oasis if both those supports are playing on the same tour?

13 hours ago, losing43 said:

Also worth stating Turnstile into Paramore works way better than say Shinedown into Sleep Token, or Korn into Biffy..

 

Whether they are subs or not is another conversation 

 

Yes. Korn into Biffy was a very stupid booking, especially on the final day of the festival and completely alienating the headliner. I didn't get Shinedown into ST but Shinedown were ace whereas ST were boring.

 

10 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's possible. They don't play often here at all, and live music is bigger than it's been for a good while, and theyre definitely a big band. Them shifting the tickets isn't out of the question. 

 

I'd rather they turn up at DL as I'd be more likely to see them.

Me too, I'd rather download just book SOAD. Maiden and LP.

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28 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's possible. They don't play often here at all, and live music is bigger than it's been for a good while, and theyre definitely a big band. Them shifting the tickets isn't out of the question. 

 

I'd rather they turn up at DL as I'd be more likely to see them.

I guess it's the cost-and-effect discussion. Blackpink were over-ambitious with their two Wembley shows this year - one would have done.

 

But then I didn't think MCR would shift two Wembley shows so fast either.

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Just now, NorthernSoul52 said:

I guess it's the cost-and-effect discussion. Blackpink were over-ambitious with their two Wembley shows this year - one would have done.

 

But then I didn't think MCR would shift two Wembley shows so fast either.

 

And with MCR, the second MK date had tickets for a good while. Which allowed me a go at it (encouraged by also seeing Placebo)

 

It's hard to know how well a band will sell these days. But I'd be more inclined to guess on the high end.

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When the demand is so high for the likes of Deftones, Korn, Limp Bizkit & Linkin Park I can’t see a world where SOAD don’t sell at least 1 stadium date. Especially with how the stadium dates looked in South America, most people that haven’t seen them or not seen them in a while surely wants a piece of that pie? 

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8 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

 

And with MCR, the second MK date had tickets for a good while. Which allowed me a go at it (encouraged by also seeing Placebo)

 

It's hard to know how well a band will sell these days. But I'd be more inclined to guess on the high end.

Yeah, I remember it was easy to get 'em for MCR at MK.

 

However, to be fair to them, by that point the pandemic had delayed the dates and they'd tossed a load of regionals up for grabs. Think a ton of resales appeared.

 

The question will be if regionals for them elsewhere have a major impact again. With no insult to their reunion - which was a certifiable "big deal" - doing The Black Parade in full is kind of a slam dunk move given its legacy on the pop-punk/emo scene and particularly its commercial heft in the United Kingdom too.

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Just now, foolee said:

When the demand is so high for the likes of Deftones, Korn, Limp Bizkit & Linkin Park I can’t see a world where SOAD don’t sell at least 1 stadium date. Especially with how the stadium dates looked in South America, most people that haven’t seen them or not seen them in a while surely wants a piece of that pie? 

And yeah, that's my other concession. Demand will likely be pent up for them.

 

But then conversely, I thought that Slayer bill was well-stacked and not outrageously priced by current market trends - and it did significantly lower numbers than anticipated in the end, I do believe?

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1 minute ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

And yeah, that's my other concession. Demand will likely be pent up for them.

 

But then conversely, I thought that Slayer bill was well-stacked and not outrageously priced by current market trends - and it did significantly lower numbers than anticipated in the end, I do believe?


I just don’t think Slayer fit into this mould though. SOAD have pretty consistently been a headliner in the UK & Europe whereas Slayer have always felt like a big sub or 2nd headliner. SOAD are more mainstream in the rock and metal scene too, likely bringing in more casuals if you like. I feel like they’re in the realm of bands like Deftones/Bizkit/Korn/LP that have had a revival and Slayer much less so. 

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1 hour ago, northernangel said:

 I didn't get Shinedown into ST but Shinedown were ace whereas ST were boring.

I was under the impression that the shinedown slot was Falling in Reverse until Ronnies visa issues, thus they booked shinedown a bit more last minute and it didn't fit with the headliner as much

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1 minute ago, Jos92 said:

I was under the impression that the shinedown slot was Falling in Reverse until Ronnies visa issues, thus they booked shinedown a bit more last minute and it didn't fit with the headliner as much

To be honest the general consensus on here was that Shinedown had been booked to sub to help out the booking of ST lol. I mean I would agree they are nothing alike really. Im not sure I'd say FIR are either. But Shinedown were much the better act with loads of pyro. ST had the stage show but thats lost  without anything else.

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4 hours ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said:

Do we know that for sure? 

John did an interview and said they’re coming to Europe to play sports grounds and specifically mentioned they’re playing in Sweden as Daron’s wife is from there. 
 

I keep saying but I think they’ll do a date at Wembley Stadium and it’ll sell out no problem. 

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1 hour ago, quentin_Tent said:

A friend who works in the industry has told me that SOAD are in talks for a Manchester Wythenshawe Park gig next summer, on a tour where they perform Toxicity in entirety. 

See, that's the level in my head that makes more sense to me than a Wembley Stadium. If they're doing Finsbury Park and Wythenshawe Park, it feels more akin to where I'd gauge them.

 

But obviously, if they can rinse Wembley Stadium, why wouldn't you?

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30,000 all standing seems too small for SOAD. As had been said, the current ticket boom for artists like Deftones, Limp Bizkit and KoRn has been massive. SOAD have always been the bigger band, both here and globally, so you would expect them to do shows that definitely trump anything those bands have done recently. 
 

Toxicity in full doesn’t make sense to me, either. They pretty much play all of it already (usually 12 from 14 songs, which they always change up, too). 
 

However, Wythenshaw Park and Toxicity in full seems oddly specific if it is simply a made up piece of information so who knows. 
 

I for one would rather a regular SOAD set, which is always 30+ songs anyway, with all of the Toxicity songs mixed in with all of their other classics and whichever deeper cuts they choose to bring out (as they always do), than having the album performed in order. 

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Issue is that unless Download have changed their radius stance, other shows alongside it wouldn't fly.

 

To counter @Andre91, if they're doing the parkland route - Finsbury, Wythenshawe, Bellahouston - then I think it's more organic and a better spread. I just don't genuinely think they're an out-and-out stadium-level act - but again, I will concur that a nine-year absence from British shores and basically a fundamental twenty year absence from anything outside of festivals and a solitary Wembley Arena show may well make the heart grow fonder.

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30 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

See, that's the level in my head that makes more sense to me than a Wembley Stadium. If they're doing Finsbury Park and Wythenshawe Park, it feels more akin to where I'd gauge them.

 

But obviously, if they can rinse Wembley Stadium, why wouldn't you?

 

I personally would top although I wouldn't rule anything out.

9 minutes ago, TWY2911 said:

I can see SOAD doing a mix of festivals and their own shows like LP last year, I definitely wouldn't rule them out of Download just yet 

 

It won't be Download and Manchester that's for sure. 

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