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[Nobody Interesting]

4 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Greens do not fit into the old system - there is a square split into 4 squares where the top left is 'left' top right is 'right' and greens are left of the bottom left............... each square has a label - this is a simple versionl, the on eI recall is more detailed.

and don't forget - far right and far left are pretty much one and the same as the system is circular rather than linear hecne bugger all difference really between Stalin and Hitler.

Here is a different version

[Nobody Interesting]

and at the next election voter ID will have  apart to play - I wonder how big a   part?

 

Warning of potential 'serious disruption' at next general election due to new voter ID laws

A report today has warned there could be "serious disruption" at the next general election due to the impact of new voter ID laws.

Electoral administrators surveyed for a report by the Local Government Information Unit (LGIU) expressed concerns about implementing the policy with staff shortages, strained resources, and complex electoral law.

The report says: "Voter ID was introduced without visible problems in the May elections, and most issues remained behind the scenes.

"Electoral administrators are concerned that the pressures of a general election will offer an opportunity for serious disruptions to occur."

Separately, the elections watchdog has called on the government to expand access to voter ID after the new rules introduced in this year's local elections prevented some from voting.

In its interim report in June, the Electoral Commission found that 14,000 people – 0.25% – did not vote after being unable to show an accepted form of ID.

They recommend the list of accepted IDs be expanded, including the option to be vouched for by another voter for those without the requisite ID.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

14 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Greens do not fit into the old system - there is a square split into 4 squares where the top left is 'left' top right is 'right' and greens are left of the bottom left............... each square has a label - this is a simple versionl, the on eI recall is more detailed.

and don't forget - far right and far left are pretty much one and the same as the system is circular rather than linear hecne bugger all difference really between Stalin and Hitler.

Just for interest people can do their own test here 

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

[Nobody Interesting]

12 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

Just for interest people can do their own test here 

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

No surprises for me....

[steviewevie]

37 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Here is a different version

so Greens are communist libertarians?

[Nobody Interesting]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

so Greens are communist libertarians?

The coloured graph and the one you quoted are not from the same system so no they are not - I have never been able to describe what 'greens are'.............................. maybe green sare just different.

Greens are bottom left on the coloured one so left libertarian.

[steviewevie]

33 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

Just for interest people can do their own test here 

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

oh.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

The coloured graph and the one you quoted are not from the same system so no they are not - I have never been able to describe what 'greens are'.............................. maybe green sare just different.

Greens are bottom left on the coloured one so left libertarian.

they're kind of centristy in some countries like Germany.

[Nobody Interesting]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

oh.

Just as I suspected - you are  a Tory who thinks Rees-Mogg is not radical enough.

[steviewevie]

 

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[steviewevie]

Blair reckons tory tax and spend hasn't worked and it's time to bin all that and rely on the robots.

Edited September 13, 2023 by steviewevie

[Rufus Gwertigan]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

so Greens are communist libertarians?

According to some they are green nazis. People can't make up their mind.

[steviewevie]

another brexit benefit.

 

[Rufus Gwertigan]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

another brexit benefit.

 

Yeah. f**k the bees the bastards get all they deserve.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

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[Crazyfool01]

38 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

Yeah. f**k the bees the bastards get all they deserve.

The sting in the tail is that f**k the bees f**ks the humans 

[fraybentos1]

Probs quite accurate 

[steviewevie]

The bees need to be more worried about Asian Hornets.

[Ozanne]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Blair reckons tory tax and spend hasn't worked and it's time to bin all that and rely on the robots.

He’s not really wrong, is he? The Tories have put up taxes and their plans haven’t worked. 

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

He’s not really wrong, is he? The Tories have put up taxes and their plans haven’t worked. 

so what? cut taxes and use AI? Think he's talking out his bum tbh.

[lost]

first climate change and now tax. Blair on a bit of a roll currently.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, lost said:

first climate change and now tax. Blair on a bit of a roll currently.

bit suspicious of his institute thing and how much influence they have and where they get their money from...

[Neil]

5 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

It looks like they will exclude bonuses making the rate 7.8%

The rate excludes bonuses 

[Nobody Interesting]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

they're kind of centristy in some countries like Germany.

Centerist cos their policies are now deemed to be 'centre' and mainstream - even though they are the same policies they had 20 years ago and were considered radical.

Now the bigger parties are stealing them the Greens are seen more and more as the norm

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Centerist cos their policies are now deemed to be 'centre' and mainstream - even though they are the same policies they had 20 years ago and were considered radical.

Now the bigger parties are stealing them the Greens are seen more and more as the norm

I guess more mainstream now they're in coalition with SPD and that other lot...but prior to that it was Merkel forever and she was centre right (?)