news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

23 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Think you find the whole thing at a Labou conference pretty pathetic stevie but are too scared to say incase ozanne starts crying

nah, couldn't give a shit if they sing national anthem or not...far more important things going on...but I do think you're a bit of a twat if that helps.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Crazyfool01 said:

nah fuck the nationalism ... it just works to divide people .... and thats where we are in Italy right now 

The red flag was used to divide people. 

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

nah, couldn't give a shit if they sing national anthem or not...far more important things going on...but I do think you're a bit of a twat if that helps.

Tory boy is upset because Labour are looking electable. 

[Crazyfool01]

Just a couple of flags , only a bit of patriotism nothing to worry about 

Edited September 26, 2022 by Crazyfool01

[fraybentos1]

22 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Tory boy is upset because Labour are looking electable. 

still going with that Tory patter🤣

You're not even a Labour member lol and you love the monarchy. Barely even left wing.

[steviewevie]

22 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Just a couple of flags , only a bit of patriotism nothing to worry about 

[Crazyfool01]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I’m not a fan of either the George cross or Union Jack there either … however the pyramid stage is amazing 

[Guest]

Anyway, Labour also announced today they would renationalise the railways when they are back in power.

There’s been some really good policies that have been announced at conference, you’d thought people would be happy to discuss that rather than singing. 

[fraybentos1]

42 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

you’d thought people would be happy to discuss that rather than singing. 

You’re honestly the most passive aggressive wee guy in the world. Always having digs at @Crazyfool01 cause you don’t like what you hear. He’s always stuck up for you when you’ve been called out for being a total fruitcake but you just can’t take anyone disagreeing with you or taking a slight dig at starmer 

[Guest]

That Truss bounce is going well. 

[mattiloy]

9 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Is Italian election result (and Sweden's) a good argument that PR isn't necessarily the greatest system?

Quite the opposite.

Neither government will be half as radical in their rightwards lurch as the UK under Truss or the US under Trump precisely because the fash rely on the votes of other right parties.

In the UK and the US the fash were able to gain total control and reform whatever they want despite winning a minority of the popular vote and controlling a minority of their party’s representatives.

[Crazyfool01]

How dare I not like flags and the nationalism it symbolises 

[cellar]

I've been reading this thread for a while, and Ozaane comes across as a troll, I think. Telling someone like crazy fool to calm down in two consecutive posts is deliberately antagonistic, not to mention the insistence on Labour/Starmer doing no wrong on actions that they would clearly attack the Tories for doing - so I'd say just stop feeding him. 

 

Ozanne, if you're not a troll, you should really have a think about how you're coming across in the way you structure your posts, it's not a good look. If you are a troll, well played.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Crazyfool01 said:

I’m not a fan of either the George cross or Union Jack there either … however the pyramid stage is amazing 

Edited September 26, 2022 by steviewevie

[zahidf]

11 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

How dare I not like flags and the nationalism it symbolises 

Associating the flag with just racist dickheads hands them the flag as there symbol

 

I don't particularly care about the flag but not everyone who uses the flag is a facist FFS

Edited September 26, 2022 by zahidf

[zahidf]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Historys greatest monster

[zahidf]

BuT WhAT AboUT ThE FLAgS

 

Labour 44% (+2)
Conservative 31% (-1)
Liberal Democrat 11% (-1)
Green 6% (+1)
SNP 4% (–)
Reform UK 2% (-1)
Other 1% (–)

Redfield. Starmer ahead 38 34 best PM

Post budget

[steviewevie]

Edited September 26, 2022 by steviewevie

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

not a fan … sorry to dissapoint 

[fraybentos1]

12 minutes ago, cellar said:

I've been reading this thread for a while, and Ozaane comes across as a troll, I think. Telling someone like crazy fool to calm down in two consecutive posts is deliberately antagonistic, not to mention the insistence on Labour/Starmer doing no wrong on actions that they would clearly attack the Tories for doing - so I'd say just stop feeding him. 

 

Ozanne, if you're not a troll, you should really have a think about how you're coming across in the way you structure your posts, it's not a good look. If you are a troll, well played.

Unbelievably he isn't a troll, he has just dedicated literal weeks of his life to posting his twitter feed and Starmer-love in this thread and the old covid one. He seems to have no real interest in music or festivals and doesn't post about that elsewhere on the forum. A truly strange guy.

[Crazyfool01]

Much better to win voters over with policy than symbolism …. 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Associating the flag with just racist dickheads hands them the flag as there symbol

 

I don't particularly care about the flag but not everyone who uses the flag is a facist FFS

I’m pretty sure he’s doing it for a reaction.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Much better to win voters over with policy than symbolism …. 

yeah, but labour never win.

[Guest]

The irony being that Labour have announced plenty of policy but that gets ignored because of reasons. 

[steviewevie]

Labour have to pull out all the stops...and that may include some patriotism that some will find uncomfortable.

And there is plenty of policy now...but policy really isn't enough...a lot of it is mood music, make people feel optimistic, secure...and that labour don't hate the things they like...like the fucking royal family. They need to win over voters that have never voted labour, as well as the ones who used to.