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I think it started with Princess Diana dying, since then it seems people feel a need to show how much more grief-stricken they are than anyone else.

I think you may be right on that - my sister in law was totally grief stricken and spent all her time telling the world how she missed Diana and how many times she had been to see all the flowers etc etc.

She had never met her in life and did not even know about her work with landmine charities!!!!!

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You can feel sorry for or even empathise with the deceaseds' families, and lament the loss of a great person, but how it is possible to feel genuine grief over the loss of someone you didn't know and never even met is beyond me.

I wonder (and this may be harsh) if these people have ever experienced true grief/loss of someone close.

And this isn't aimed at your sister-in-law, matty it's a general point.

A general point I 100% agree with.

You can aim at my SiL if you want - she is a horrible woman :-)

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Horrible cold too. Sorry Mr G, been sorting stuff out offline, any pics of the bbq?

Can anyone tell me how to get photos onto a post using an iPhone? Can't work out if I'm just being a technology idiot or if it's not possible! Alternatively, could someone on a proper computer post a photo of my BBQ from Facebook? Thanks!

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Can anyone tell me how to get photos onto a post using an iPhone? Can't work out if I'm just being a technology idiot or if it's not possible! Alternatively, could someone on a proper computer post a photo of my BBQ from Facebook? Thanks!

I just saw your BBQ on FB! But alas, I cannpt post a PIC OF IT FOR i KNOW NOT HOW.

tHAT AND IT'S ALMOST HOMETIME ;)

Oops sorry!!

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You can feel sorry for or even empathise with the deceaseds' families, and lament the loss of a great person, but how it is possible to feel genuine grief over the loss of someone you didn't know and never even met is beyond me.

I can only get it when it's someone who you could feel still had something to contribute. When someone dies young, I'm sure we all have felt it in music - I can understand the feeling of loss of what could have been. When it's someone who basically hasn't done anything for 20 years, I do wonder what people are grieving about.

Mandela was the perfect example. I couldn't really understand the sadness at his passing. Surely few people could have done more with their life? What more could he give?

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Has someone died or is all this talk just in general?

This was prompted by Lynda Bellingham's funeral taking place at my local church yesterday, and crowds of people in the town celeb-spotting. It struck me as rather sad and tawdry. That then moved on to a discussion of the phenomenon of social media 'grief' that seems to have taken off in recent years.

Aside from that, hello HMV! Haven't seen you on here for a day or two, what you been up to?

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Aw that was really sad about Lynda, saw her being interviewed on BBC breakfast news about a week or two before she passed and she really was a beacon of light. So sad she didn't get to spend one last Christmas with her family. You do get a lot of people who are emotional tourists.

I'm fine, haven't been able to get into any of the threads for a day or two so only catching up on everything this evening.

Feel like I've missed a Taylor Swift meeting. Giving my head a wobble. Seriously couldn't pick her or one of her songs in a line up.

Hows the NFR NFC gang?

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There's a difference between the feeling of loss when a young person you've never met dies and true grief though. At least there is for me.

Yes,there is a qualititive difference. I was upset when my Granny died a few years ago. I was upset when I was 17 and a school friend died in a car crash. I was also upset when Amy Winehouse died and I have always found John Lennon's death upsetting. Unsurprising, I shed tears over the deaths of the people I knew died, but I would hesitate to say that the grief for them was 'real' and the feeling I experienced for the people I never met was not. They were all so totally different situations and have triggered such different feelings in me, each of the four events was utterly distinct. My Gran's death wasn't tragic (she was 92), Lennon died before I knew who he was. It seems odd to describe them all with the word 'mourning'.

I certainly felt no special grief for Lady Di, but I do believe that people can have genuine feelings about the passing of total strangers and it can have nothing to do with whether they have lost anypne close to them. I've no idea why some events strike a chord when others do not, it's probably something to so with the way events intersect with your own personal emotional journey(sorry for the phrase 'emotional journey'!). For instance, I was totally unmoved by the Dunblaine shooting, but would I feel different if it happened today, with a young daughter of my own? Almost certainly. I expect my grief at Amy Winehouse was connected to the suicide of a friend a few years earlier where drugs were implicated. So, I didn't *really* grieve for her, how could I? I never knew her, but grief did occur and it was real.

Yeah, RIP Oxo mum.

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