prince

[FuzzyDunlop]

Check put prince at the billboard awards last year. He can still do it

[suzie sue]

Every decade has an equal share of crap music, just check out the late night broadcasts of top of the pops from 70s and 90s.

[Mr.Tease]

The 70s clearly the worst decade

[russycarps]

I never understand how people can make that claim! I've heard people say it a few times. 70s to me had all of my favourite music, with a lot of my favourite bands at their peak. Just out of curiosity who are people thinking of when they say 70s music was terrible?

80s were dire- even the musicians who were great in the 70s turned to shit! All of them- just weird how so many lost it.

[Guest]

Every decade has an equal share of crap music, just check out the late night broadcasts of top of the pops from 70s and 90s.

[eFestivals]

Every decade has an equal share of crap music, just check out the late night broadcasts of top of the pops from 70s and 90s.

that was part of the problem. For many of those coming from the 70s and believing themselves as having credible music tastes, if it was on top of the pops it was crap.

And Prince was on top of the pops! That (mixed with the bad rep of 'disco' for some) caused him to pass by a huge number of people that might have otherwise at least given him a chance. If your tastes were in certain places what you might hear of singles certainly wouldn't hook you in.

As a result of that, as well as his career descending into farce with the use of the squiggle, he was someone (just so many standard pop stars) who was left with little in the way of any sizable and enduring fanbase.

I really think that if Eavis hadn't spent the last ten+ years pining after him that the interest in him today would be massively less than the excitement he clearly is able to cause.

[eFestivals]

80s were dire- even the musicians who were great in the 70s turned to shit! All of them- just weird how so many lost it.

for me, the problem with the 80s isn't so much that the music was dire (tho plenty was), it's more about the sort of clean & deep production that was used on so much of it.

Because a lot of that production is used onto synthesisers in their earlier days, it really hasn't aged very well at all.

I've been horrified to hear some new music (don't ask me what, I can't remember) somewhen recently that reminded me so much of that sound. Eurch!

[Guest]

that was part of the problem. For many of those coming from the 70s and believing themselves as having credible music tastes, if it was on top of the pops it was crap.

And Prince was on top of the pops! That (mixed with the bad rep of 'disco' for some) caused him to pass by a huge number of people that might have otherwise at least given him a chance. If your tastes were in certain places what you might hear of singles certainly wouldn't hook you in.

[Guest]

for me, the problem with the 80s isn't so much that the music was dire (tho plenty was), it's more about the sort of clean & deep production that was used on so much of it.

Because a lot of that production is used onto synthesisers in their earlier days, it really hasn't aged very well at all.

I've been horrified to hear some new music (don't ask me what, I can't remember) somewhen recently that reminded me so much of that sound. Eurch!

[Mr.Tease]

PS: care to tell me how you heard of Prince?

You lie.

[eFestivals]

so was Elvis Costello, Midnight Oil, loads of others. Level 42 headlined one year

But the likes of Elvis and Oil fell within the broad scope of 'rock' so there were no quibbles with them.

I don't have any memory of level 42 headlining. Did they really? Guess that rather proves the point of just how little some cared for that sort of thing.

Glastonbury always did the pop thing - but they were very largely of a 'certain kind of pop'.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

As a result of that, as well as his career descending into farce with the use of the squiggle, he was someone (just so many standard pop stars) who was left with little in the way of any sizable and enduring fanbase.

Edited February 5, 2014 by Frankly Mr Shankly

[eFestivals]

This wasn't directed at me, but it triggered a memory!- I got into Prince's music in 1997, when I encountered his new triple album Emancipation, in the John Menzies bargain bin on cassette for £1, which I believed represented enormous value for money at the time, and so bought it, despite his reputation being at an all time low.

Excellent!

That's exactly the sort of thing loads of people did in the past, but which has now died out. I got into Jimmy Cliff in much the same way: I remember having heard somewhere that he was good, so I bought an album I saw in a bargain bin.

But even then it relies on something - someone - else, to give the recognition to that artist's name in the first place. The idea gets planted that they're good, which causes a person to follow thru on it. And if the idea comes at you via a media barrage, it's far easier to get swept along in it.

[Mr.Tease]

for me, the problem with the 80s isn't so much that the music was dire (tho plenty was), it's more about the sort of clean & deep production that was used on so much of it.

Because a lot of that production is used onto synthesisers in their earlier days, it really hasn't aged very well at all.

I've been horrified to hear some new music (don't ask me what, I can't remember) somewhen recently that reminded me so much of that sound. Eurch!

[Guest]

And that's what I don't understand- why did people in the 80s think that production sounded not only great, but so great that EVERYONE had to use it?! It sounds crap now, they must have known it sounded crap back then (Even I did and I wasn't even 10!).

[Trebor]

To think that Bowie's Low is partly responsible for that drum sound...

[Wooderson]

And that's what I don't understand- why did people in the 80s think that production sounded not only great, but so great that EVERYONE had to use it?! It sounds crap now, they must have known it sounded crap back then (Even I did and I wasn't even 10!).

[CaledonianGonzo]

I dunno - the first thing I think when I'm listening to Psychocandy or This Nation's Saving Grace or Forever Breathes the Lonely Word or Critical Beatdown or 16 Lovers Lane or Rum, Sodomy & The Lash is 'This would be better without the gated snares'.

[bezs brain cell]

As I said, music in the 80s was shit. [/quot

fucking hell ive opened up a proper can of worms.Personely i fuckin hate the 80's because i was there man.!!!

[eFestivals]

Personely i fuckin hate the 80's because i was there man.!!!

You've nailed it.

[CardiffWanderer]

Theres a rake of 80's records where the production/"Way the record sounds" is incredible. Not niche records either like "Remain in Light"...

- Hounds of Love

- Thriller

- Surfer Rosa

- Spirit of Eden

- Paul's Boutique

[Mud Dweller]

How in the loop are those that run The Beats Hotel

Their last RT should set tongues wagging a little more

[CaledonianGonzo]

+ The Queen Is Dead, Document, The Unforgettable Fire, Daydream Nation, The Head on the Door...

[suzie sue]

Such diversity in the face of thatcher, post punk, goth, hip hop, house, miles more interesting than the bland 90s or 00s

[Yesiamaduck]

Such diversity in the face of thatcher, post punk, goth, hip hop, house, miles more interesting than the bland 90s or 00s

Edited February 5, 2014 by Yesiamaduck