Manics

[Simpo]

Fair dos - didn't take note of the venue. However, I must take issue with the words "crap" and "sleepflower" in the same sentence. Sleepflower is a choon and half!

Hahaha, that's how James referred to it once, tongue in cheek, when it got shouted out!

I love it too.

The Manics right, they're a funny band. Full of contradictions, occasionally/constantly (delete as you see fit) disappointing, but so unique.

Such a variety of music across their career.

Love em.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Born To End! Not seen that. Would be glorious.

No Surface All Feeling is actually one of my favourites as well. Always goes down well.

[Simpo]

Look at some of the stuff they played on the Past/Present/Future tour!

[Zoo Music Girl]

I'm now trawling the setlist websites for more memories. I also went to this at HMV Oxford Street in July 2003. It was to promote Lipstick Traces, hence obscure setlist:

• 1. Strip It Down
  2. Prologue to History
  3. Donkeys
  4. Mr Carbohydrate
  5. 4 Ever Delayed
  6. It's So Easy
     (Guns N’ Roses cover)
  7. Judge Yr'self
  8. Take the Skinheads Bowling
     (Camper Van Beethoven cover)

We had to queue from 5:30am to get wristbands for that! And I got my Holy Bible signed, which I'd totally forgotten about until I opened it the other day.

[Simpo]

Bloody hell - which year was that?

Can't believe they played ....WHITEAMERICA....

2005

[Zoo Music Girl]

And this is the best time I saw them, at St David's Hall, Cardiff. As much for the intimate venue as the setlist, mind. Fair bit of acoustic in that too.

1. Enola/Alone
   (Acoustic)
2. Faster
   (Acoustic)
3. Little Baby Nothing
   (Acoustic)
4. Door to the River
   (Acoustic)
5. My Little Empire
   (Acoustic)
6. Ocean Spray
   (Acoustic)
7. You Stole the Sun From My Heart
   (Acoustic)
8. Encore:
9. You Love Us
10. Motorcycle Emptiness
11. There by the Grace of God
12. From Despair to Where
13. Slash 'n' Burn
14. Kevin Carter
15. Suicide Is Painless (Theme from MASH)
    (Johnny Mandel cover)
16. Roses in the Hospital
17. 4 Ever Delayed
18. If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
19. A Design for Life

[Zoo Music Girl]

By Jame's Dean Bradfield 'Sean Moore And Nicky Jone's?

Lol! May well be. It's impossible to decipher any of them.

See that's not that long ago - relatively. Which is why I've always championed 'old' fans that I know to go see them. They rarely listen though. Their loss.

Yeah, yeah...

Besides 2005 was bloody ages ago!

Edited October 23, 2013 by RebeccaD

[Zoo Music Girl]

Not in Manics' years. 2005 was well into their so called Past it period. That set list I posted earlier was from 2010 - that's not that long ago.

When you gonna listen to Bag lady anyway?

Actually, maybe in a bit. I'm at work but it's quiet and my manager is out.

[VCK]

Their set at Leeds in 2008 was a bit leftfield, as opposed to the usual greatest hits setlists they throw out at most festivals. Of Walking Abortion and a cover of Pennyroyal Tea were thrown in.

Otherwise, agreed that their festival setlists are predictable. But I guess if you're a band with a large back catalogue, playing to a crowd largely comprised of people who are only really familiar with your hits then you can't really expect them to do Nostalgic Pushead or Another Invented Disease!

[VCK]

Seen It!!

Look at this setlist from Leeds Union. 2007 - same tour as Glasto. Considering they'd just released your favourite - Your Love Alone - and Autumnsong. Notice Yes, Born to End, SleepFlower, No Surface, Little Baby Nothing

1. You Love Us
2. Your Love Alone Is Not Enough
3. Motorcycle Emptiness
5. Faster
6. La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh)
7. Rendition
8. Born to End
9. From Despair to Where
10. The Second Great Depression
11. Kevin Carter
13. Send Away the Tigers
14. If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
15. Yes
    (Acoustic)
16. No Surface All Feeling
    (Acoustic)
17. Sleepflower
18. Autumnsong
19. You Stole the Sun From My Heart
20. Little Baby Nothing
21. Motown Junk
22. A Design for Life

I was there, my first ever Manics gig. Great performance, great atmosphere and an all round brilliant night. I don't recall them doing From Despair To Where though.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Their set at Leeds in 2008 was a bit leftfield, as opposed to the usual greatest hits setlists they throw out at most festivals. Of Walking Abortion and a cover of Pennyroyal Tea were thrown in.

Otherwise, agreed that their festival setlists are predictable. But I guess if you're a band with a large back catalogue, playing to a crowd largely comprised of people who are only really familiar with your hits then you can't really expect them to do Nostalgic Pushead or Another Invented Disease!

Of Walking Abortion! I'd love to see that too.

You know what I'd love? Condemned to Rock 'n' Roll. Underrated.

[VCK]

Of Walking Abortion! I'd love to see that too.

You know what I'd love? Condemned to Rock 'n' Roll. Underrated.

Was a pleasant surprise! Not one they do frequently, in fact, I'm not sure if they've done it since.

Condemned To Rock N' Roll is one of my all time favourite album closers. I always feel that after a brilliant first half Generation Terrorists drops off a bit and then boom! It ends on a high note.

I remember bouncing up and down to it in my "You Love Us We are your Sacrifice" tour T shirt that I got from HMV in about '94. And which will be dragged out again if they do a HB set at Glasto (or anywhere).

I remember the support, Fear Of Music, didn't go down too well with the crowd!

[Zoo Music Girl]

That's got me thinking. Imagine if they get a Pyramid afternoon slot - but do an unadvertised Holy Bible set.

The Pimms crowd all on their blankets: "I quite like that Show Me the Wonder they did last year."

"Oh yes and they did that Postcards song a couple of years ago too."

Out they come and the first line everyone hears is "For sale, dumb c*nts, same dumb questions." With a "He's a boy, you want a girl so tear off his cock. Tie his hair in bunches, fuck him call him Rita if you want." chorus.

Ear defenders onto kids' ears quick as a flash as the field empties quicker than my bowels after a vindaloo.

I'd love it!

I'd love it too, but that's why I think they'll make their intentions clear beforehand. Although... once they're up there...

[Zoo Music Girl]

Such a great closer. "There's nothing I wanna see... There's nowhere I wanna go..."

And back to the start.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Ooh Methadone Pretty is great. And Crucific Kiss! Those last three are perfect in my eyes.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Go on then - I'm really bored today - give me your trimmed GT.

[Simpo]

They did Condemned when I saw them in 2007, but only about 90 seconds of it as an intro to Motown Junk, the teasing bastards!

Little Baby Nothing before that too.

[Zoo Music Girl]

They did Condemned when I saw them in 2007, but only about 90 seconds of it as an intro to Motown Junk, the teasing bastards!

Little Baby Nothing before that too.

Ooh that's a cruel tease!

[Zoo Music Girl]

Now this isn't to say these songs are shit, (although Repeat (Stars and Stripes) is), but just the album would have been seen as an absolute classic debut if it lost:

Crucifix Kiss

Tennessee

So Dead (although this rose in stock for me the other night - better than I remembered)

Repeat (Stars and Stripes)

Repeat (UK)

and Another Invented Disease.

This game is quite hard as the first 5 are obvious, but the 6th one is quite hard to decide on. Another Invented Disease is a good song, but you have to get it down to 12.

Not bad. I really like Repeat though - both versions.

I would cut:

Damn Dog

Tennessee

Another Invented Disease

Spectators of Suicide

But then I'd really struggle. I like it at the length it is though, as said previously.

[Zoo Music Girl]

You can't cut Love's Sweet Exile! It's a stone cold classic.

Okay, I'll cut Repeat (Stars and Stripes) and Natwest-Barclays-Midlands-Lloyds because I secretly think it's a bit silly. But I'm weeping as I type.

[Zoo Music Girl]

You made me do it!

[Zoo Music Girl]

Nah. So Dead is awesome! As is Repeat.

See, the album is perfect the way it is. Once you start fucking with it all kinds of bad things happen.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Um, yeah, I didn't spot that either! There's a lot to a Manics song though, to be fair. You have to be pretty hot to pick up every reference.

I played by the rules anyway - not my fault if you couldn't handle the outcome.

[VCK]

I used to hate the Stars And Stripes version of Repeat when I heard it years ago, but since then I have discovered the greatness of Ice Cube's AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted so I've grown to appreciate it and the Bomb Squad's production on it more.

[Gnomicide]

Do they still resolutely refuse to play an encore? I always liked that about the Manics.