Football 2013-2014

[strummer77]

That's not fergies '2 wingers' that's man utd history having '2 wingers', that's the way it's always been.

Edited September 3, 2013 by strummer77

[The Nal]

Why the hell would Man U play Nani considering the form he's been in for the last 2 years?

[strummer77]

United had the worst summer there. Not great signings and manager change was always a downgrade. They won the league by a lot last year though so if RVP stays fit they will have a chance. Nonetheless a poor summer.

Arsenal got a big one, and a good one. Got to be happy-ish even if not every problem is solved. Giroud always improving too.

Spurs have a lot of good players in but will short-term miss Bale's goals due to transition. If they can get new players to gel quickly they will be more than fine though.

Chelsea did ok. Not spectacular but young team was improving anyway, should have kept Lukaku.

Man City bought well as they should. Think they will win the league.

Liverpool built on January and improved the squad depth whilst addressing defensive issues. Kept Suarez.

Everton had a very good last hour. Will improve on recent showings.

Edited September 3, 2013 by strummer77

[thetime]

. Still not impressive though, doesn't exactly compare to Citeh/Chelski/Arse does it?

[thetime]

I think that is overstated. Most football teams historically have had wingers. It is only relatively recently teams have moved away from that. United kept it through this period as the formation suited Ferguson's style.

[thetime]

Why the hell would Man U play Nani considering the form he's been in for the last 2 years?

[eFestivals]

Why the hell would Man U play Nani considering the form he's been in for the last 2 years?

cos he's just signed a new contract, so they're stuck with him...?

[kaosmark2]

Madness I know.

The two wingers is very Fergie though. He played them at Aberdeen too. I think it might be time for a change though. If the wingers are misfiring its very ordinary and predictable. Like Sunday.

[eFestivals]

City/arsenal have poor strikers in comparison with RVP/Rooney/Hernandez/wellbeck.

eh?

Care to remind me how many goals Welbeck scored last season?

(or Hernandez, come to that).

I really can't see Chelsea winning the league with eto'o, Torres and ba.

short memory?

Chelsea were hardly a goal machine last time Moaniho was there. It's all about where the bus is parked.

The same can be said for arsenal there not going to be anywhere close to the league with giroud/podolski.

except of course they have a fair number of players banging in the goals. They rely on their striker(s) less than (most of?) the others. Edited September 3, 2013 by eFestivals

[TheGayTent]

That 'Hey Jude' is already one of the better player songs around at the moment.

[kaosmark2]

Well depends how optimistic or negative you are?

City/arsenal have poor strikers in comparison with RVP/Rooney/Hernandez/wellbeck. I think every team has got his weakness and city really struggle when kompany isn't there.

I really can't see Chelsea winning the league with eto'o, Torres and ba. The same can be said for arsenal there not going to be anywhere close to the league with giroud/podolski.

[thetime]

eh? :blink:Care to remind me how many goals Welbeck scored last season?(or Hernandez, come to that). .

[thetime]

. Kompany is their leader, defensive rock and captain, and of course he'll be missed when not there, but the same could be said for Man U and Vidic.

[kaosmark2]

Don't agree as vidic only played half the league games last season and only 6 the season before that.

Man utd usually have players to step up for missing players which is why I think we will easily finish top 2.

*although I did say we would beat Liverpool by 2 clear goals aswel.

[thetime]

And your defensive records in both the last 2 seasons were worse than the teams around you and a decline on previous years. Are you really arguing that Evans is a better backup than Lescott? Or David Luiz?

[The Nal]

eh?

Care to remind me how many goals Welbeck scored last season?

(or Hernandez, come to that).

[thetime]

No matter what happens if.when RVP pulls up with a hammer injury there'll be a gasp of desperation from Utd fans. And we've no idea what we're getting from Rooney this season.

[kaosmark2]

As defenders yes those 2 are liabilities. We will have the best defensive record in the league this season with felliani protecting with carrick.

[thetime]

Worse liabilities than Evans? Really?

That defensive record is reliant on Fellaini playing DM and not being thrown forward to do the striker knock-down job. And you're forgetting the Mourinho factor, do you really think he won't be keeping the back door shut?

[TheGayTent]

Evans wouldn't get in the WHU team, and that WHU team won't be finishing top half without investment in January.

[The Nal]

Your not very positive today nal.

Edited September 3, 2013 by The Nal

[thetime]

I am actually. Think Fellaini is a good purchase. Versatile midfielder. Utd are going to be a real danger in the air now. Fellaini, RVP, Vidic.

[kaosmark2]

The thing is, lots of people have been looking at Man U's squad for years and thinking it's a bit weak on quality. There's always been a psychological factor at Man U of winning mentality, winning habit, opponent's fearing them, ref decisions, etc. that's meant the team's remained competitive at the top level, however lots of people are attributing that to Fergie - and even moreso now he's gone. It could well be that the squad and players retain that belief, arrogance and psychology under Moyes, but it's hard to be confident of that. Add in greater and superior investment at other clubs, and Mourinho returning to Chelsea, it makes it very hard to think Man U will be as much of a force as they were - particularly when they've already lost a game.

[thetime]

The thing is, lots of people have been looking at Man U's squad for years and thinking it's a bit weak on quality. There's always been a psychological factor at Man U of winning mentality, winning habit, opponent's fearing them, ref decisions, etc. that's meant the team's remained competitive at the top level, however lots of people are attributing that to Fergie - and even moreso now he's gone. It could well be that the squad and players retain that belief, arrogance and psychology under Moyes, but it's hard to be confident of that. Add in greater and superior investment at other clubs, and Mourinho returning to Chelsea, it makes it very hard to think Man U will be as much of a force as they were - particularly when they've already lost a game.

[kaosmark2]

A. Chelsea and city have been spending vast amounts for years.

B. we lost first game last season.

Now if your attributing it to Fergie fair enough I can't argue with that, being totally written of with no facts is way of in my opinion. Are we still going to challenge for titles in the next 5 years? Yes are we going to win as many titles without Fergie? Probably not.

Same force? No written of to 4th/5th this season? No your being silly with nothing to back it up.

Folk say city are stronger, I would say there weaker with losing balotelli/tevez this year.