F1 2013

[Barry Fish]

End of old thread:

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Seems sensible to create a new thread...

[The Nal]

The concept that a team should look to fuck itself over before the season has hardly got going is bonkers.

Edited March 25, 2013 by The Nal

[The Nal]

To me its no different than a team going defensive at 2-0 and seeing out the last 15 mins of a football match...

This is F1... Moments of excitement and long periods of strategy and tactics playing out.

Fans want to see millions of pounds worth of carbon fibre going through the air. Its not realistic though. Specially given the cost of putting the sport on. There is a time to go for it and a time to say, lets bring the points home, job done.

Pulling over to let another driver past in my mind is very toxic, in race 2.... No driver should be a number 2. Holding stations and being sensible is just fine.

Edited March 25, 2013 by The Nal

[The Nal]

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I am confused ? No one let anyone past during the race ?

[The Nal]

To be fair, the winner had to apologies for being a bit of a c**t more than the winning...

[whisty]

True. I liked it though! I love when team mates hate each other in F1.

Edited March 25, 2013 by whisty

[Kyelo]

Woops just posted in the old thread, never noticed this one!

[Gre]

I suppose the logical conclusion on team orders is to go back to the 50s; Vettel's car breaks down, he hops into Webber's and wins the race...

Edited March 29, 2013 by Gre

[Kyelo]

Anybody seen this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22098438

Vettel-;""I don't apologise for winning...I think that's why people employed me in the first place and why I'm here. I love racing and that's what I did."

True but what a d*ck, basically it means that if you are good enough(Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso etc)the rules don't apply to you as you can get away with it! haha will this spark resistance in the top teams ie Webber not ding as told in future?

Edited April 10, 2013 by Kyelo

[Kyelo]

Vettels beef is Webber didn't help him in the past...

The whole thing pisses me off... Today Vettell has said sorry, I didn't mean it and I would do it all again... I mean FFS you can't be all those things...

The two just fucking hate each other and think each other are twats. Best they just said it and moved on.

The best part now is all the cards are on the table. Vettel won't be helping Webber, that is clear. And if Webber obeys a team order to help Vettel it would confirm beyond on all doubt Webber is the number two driver.

[Gre]

I actually hope it spurs on a domino effect through the paddock, hope all the drivers say 'f*ck off to team orders', can't stand them!

[Kyelo]

Just saying 'fuck it' and driving 100% to win isn't the best idea these days though; you need to preserve engines, gearboxes, whatever else for x races due to the cost-cutting rules. Boooring.

Edited April 11, 2013 by Kyelo

[Gre]

The drivers are all fully aware of these facts but what it would do is make it very fair and for the viewer much more exciting.

[JBarbour]

Just watching the f1 show... This is getting ridiculous, Are red bull turning this into one big marketing stunt?

[TheGayTent]

Hamilton on pole! Boy out qualified Rosberg three times now.

Going to be a good GP tomoz. Isn't much different between all the top cars.

[Kyelo]

As a Mclaren fan this season is meh for me. I do think though, even if we had a car that could compete we still wouldn't win. We don't have a top driver.

Would like to Raikkonen win this season though, find him hugely entertaining and an ace driver. Be nice to see another team win also(even if it is a renamed Renault).

Anybody seen this? Big rumours that Webber will be leaving F1 and joining Porsche...

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/14/red-bull-f1-driver-mark-webber-porsche_n_3079656.html

Edited April 14, 2013 by Kyelo

[TheGayTent]

Well was a pretty epic grand prix in the end besides Alonso who never looked in trouble.

[TheGayTent]

Clearly but given your posts constantly slagging off the sport I doubt anything would entertain you in modern F1. I think you wear rose tinted glasses when looking at the past... Most F1 fans do...

Edited April 15, 2013 by TheGayTent

[TheGayTent]

Yes the last 10th of the race was quite exciting. The previous 9 10ths were shit.

Ignoring whether DRS is 'good' or not, they fucked it up in China - learning nothing from last year...

Having a tyre degrade after 4 laps does not make for good racing. I'm happy tyre management forms part of a race. The balance at the moment however, is hopelessly wrong.

[Kyelo]

Sour grapes from Button yesterday if you ask me!

[TheGayTent]

Get well soon Murray

[TheGayTent]

Webber off then

[PDAD]

Hardly surprising. He will be missed in the paddock though..

[TheGayTent]

I'm very interested to see who will be his replacement - I'd love it to be Raikkonen

[PDAD]

Great weekend at Silverstone as ever. Exciting race as well, though shame about Lewis.