Football 2011-2012

[zahidf]

Surely suarez refused to shake hands because he was so disgusted by Blatter's comments last year, that he wanted to prove him wrong?

[strummer77]

Surely suarez refused to shake hands because he was so disgusted by Blatter's comments last year, that he wanted to prove him wrong?

Edited February 12, 2012 by strummer77

[Kyelo]

PFA Chief, Gordon Taylor, is now saying LFC owners should now step in http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/17000125 with Luis Suarez.

Basically the only people defending him are Kenny and some Liverpool fans, everybody else is against him...http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17000355, his fellow team mates are keeping quiet, former and current players/managers/pundits etc be they Liverpool or not are against his behaviour...it's only Kenny who is sticking up for him.

Edited February 12, 2012 by BenchBuddah

[Ed209]

Liverpool have to discipline Suarez for unprofessional behaviour or disobeying managerial orders to get a grip on the situation

Edited February 12, 2012 by Ed209

[strummer77]

Is that really an acceptable situation for a club like Liverpool these days ?

Edited February 12, 2012 by strummer77

[thetime]

he didnt shake hands, its just panto isnt it? No one got injured by it, no one got hurt.

Just watch the game through this morning and gary neville hit the nail on the head, everyone loved it. Its a good job rio got in the way in the first minute of evra and suarez or evra would of been of.

We all love this sort of stuff, gets everyone up for it. Even fans that have nothing to do with it(barry), are in uproar lol.

Liverpool v united great rivals, now all we need is liverpool to be higher than 7th!!!

He didnt shake his hand and thats it....blimey must be a non story day.

[strummer77]

he didnt shake hands, its just panto isnt it? No one got injured by it, no one got hurt.

Just watch the game through this morning and gary neville hit the nail on the head, everyone loved it. Its a good job rio got in the way in the first minute of evra and suarez or evra would of been of.

We all love this sort of stuff, gets everyone up for it. Even fans that have nothing to do with it(barry), are in uproar lol.

Liverpool v united great rivals, now all we need is liverpool to be higher than 7th!!!

He didnt shake his hand and thats it....blimey must be a non story day.

Edited February 12, 2012 by strummer77

[kaosmark2]

Its funny every time I think the relegation battle will get predictable, there seems to be a bit of a twist. You think bolton will pull away and they lose to wigan, think blackbuurn will fall apart and they beat qpr.

I think newcastle have zero chance of champions league. Its like villa under O neil, the second half of the season really tests the strength of a squad and newcastle are seriously lacking. I am starting to think arsenal may do it, however this season the sides 3-6 are really bad in relation to previous years.

I personally alwayts disagreed with the criticism that Henry got. You look at the likes of Gareth Bale, Stevie G, James Milner who the media pretty much never criticise, my belief is that they all would have done exactly the same as Henry did., in a similar situation.

[kaosmark2]

Yup. That kind of 'cheating' in football is horrible when you're on the end of it but almost everyone would have done it. No criticisms of Henry like I have no criticism of when Phil Neville punched a shot off the line against us in the derby.

When push comes to shove, you're trying to gain an advantage and I'm sure all of our lot would have done the same.

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On a side note, thought this was fairly funny from twitter...

Michael Vaughan: What happened at OT today with Suarez??

Gary Neville:he scored

[thetime]

I'm growing increasingly sure Arsenal will do it.

[Kowalski]

The moral outrage all of Man U are going on about this handshake is actually more excessive than their response to one of their players supposedly being racially abused. Either they have a twisted priority of values, are looking for cheap point scoring, or Suarez wasn't behaving as racist as Evra+FA would have people believe.

[kaosmark2]

Could depend on how far they get in champions league as they dont have the squad to rotate. Also depends on rvp stopping fit.

[kaosmark2]

You still don't get it do you?

[Kowalski]

Get what?

The fact that Suarez is a classless c**t and Dalglish shouldn't be defending him as staunchly as he is?

[kaosmark2]

Its nothing to do with Man Utd fans, most of the country despises the little c**t now, including some Liverpool fans. Your continued attempt to make this into some sort of tribal disagreement with two clubs is so wide of the mark. I was speaking to a Liverpool fan this morning who thinks Suarez should get another 8 game ban for bringing the game into disrepute. He lays the blame firmly at the club for not educating Suarez into what is deemed acceptable and unacceptable in British culture when he arrived.

Only Dalglish and a small number of Liverpool fans can't see this. The board of LFC will need to sort it out as Dalglish is burying his head in the sand and ruining a once proud club. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be very worried about exactly how much damage the unsackable King Kenny could be doing (both on and off the park).

[The Nal]

Suarez let the club and Daglish down badly yesterday after LFC released a statement saying he would shake hands. Actually not as huge deal as people are making out on the racial/Evra side, Suarez is clearly a nasty little bastard, but his behaviour has just caused another another PR nightmare for Liverpool.

Couple of things I've noticed. Seems to be the week for believing lies e.g. "Capello never bothered to learn to speak English" etc.

- People saying "Oh Fergie supported Cantona after the king fu kick" are wrong. For a start, it was a racially aggravated attack but against Cantona. And Fergie banned him for four months after it which he had to do really to show the FA he was being proactive about it. They're not comparable, it was 15 years ago and doesn't take anything away from yesterday.

- The "Evra pulled his hand away" talk from yesterday from some LFC fans, digging out pictures from different angles and the like was a total embarrassment.

- I actually felt a little sorry for Daglish. He was left with his dick swinging in the wind after the match yesterday due to the actions of a player he has defended to the point of public ridicule. Daglish said on Thursday Suarez would shake hands and then he has to do an interview after the match when Suarez refuses, while Suarez sits in the dressing room with no media obligations.

- I agree with Fergie. Suarez isn't a Liverpool player. Hes not even that good for a start and hes a disruptive liability. Supported 100% by the club and he slapped LFC in the face yesterday. The non handshake was anti LFC, not anti MUFC or anti Evra. Evra smiled after it, Daglish didn't and the owners of LFC certainly aren't smiling today.

- And yes, Evra's celebrations were totally OTT but understandable given the circumstances. They were to the Utd fans anyway, not the LFC fans, Red Nev style.

About the actual football game, , thought LFC played some nice ball at times but nothing sticking up front. Valencia, Scholes and Rooney were incredible. Not many wingers have gotten the better of Enrique this season. Scholes just ran the show. I forgot Gerrard was playing for long periods. Scholes has got rid of the rust he had for the first few games. Utd are a totally different team with him in it.

Edited February 12, 2012 by The Nal

[Kowalski]

Finally some sense from LFC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17004667

A statement from Suarez on the Liverpool website read: "I have spoken with the manager [Kenny Dalglish] since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong.

"I have not only let him down but also the club and what it stands for and I'm sorry. I made a mistake and I regret what happened.

"I should have shaken Patrice Evra's hand before the game and I want to apologise for my actions.

"I would like to put this whole issue behind me and concentrate on playing football."

[strummer77]

I never said it was to do with Man U fans. I was slagging off the players + manager at Man U for their imbalanced reaction. It's not wrong to describe them as c**ts as well.

Another 8 game ban would be ridiculous. Liverpool should fine Suarez for it.

And I'm not a Liverpool fan. It's not only Liverpool fans who are seeing that there's twattish behaviour from both sides.

Edited February 12, 2012 by strummer77

[Kowalski]

http://www.guardian....n?newsfeed=true

That is what Kenny said you twerp...

You are just you typical simple minded football fan. Defend your own side to the end.

You just look silly...

Considering Suarez has now said sorry and LFC has condemned his actions... That make Kenny look a bit of a dick to be kind...

[strummer77]

Good...

Looks like the powers that be within the club have finally lost patient....

Edited February 12, 2012 by strummer77

[strummer77]

The only fools are you and the rest of the idiots who have throughout this offered support... Its only now we are seeing the tail between the legs...

Your clubs reputation is mud.. Kennys is mud... and Suarez is mud.... and everyone who offered support to them is mud...

Saying sorry isn't always just good enough, specially when it comes this late in the day...

[kaosmark2]

So....

Wolves dumped back in the relegation zone in a tasty derby.

City eventually get a goal + save to win the game and move back to the top.

African Nations final tonight.

Champs Lge returns this week.

[strummer77]

So....

Wolves dumped back in the relegation zone in a tasty derby.

City eventually get a goal + save to win the game and move back to the top.

African Nations final tonight.

Champs Lge returns this week.

[kaosmark2]

McCarthy gone I reckon.

Oh and worst game I've seen in ages the City one. Villa have no passion, no commitment, no imagination etc. Absolutely dire to watch. They would be absolutely delighted with 0-0 every game.

[The Nal]

The reaction to yesterday was a bit mental though. Even the king of hyperbole Alan Green called it hysterical coverage. Said nobody without a monitor in ground would have seen handshakes or lack of them and it wasn't going to cause a riot like SAF says. I think Ferguson ran his mouth a bit too much after the game and lost a bit of that moral highground he could have had.