Football 2010-2011

[pink_triangle]

why do you have to play for an elite club to be better than david ngog?

i like the golden boot though. this is the one that larsson won right? it's quite good the handicaps that are involved to make it fair. just seen though in the days that mccoist won, it was a bit of a farce.

[ampersand]

i don't see why though. why should his acheivements be looked down upon because he's scoring goals with 'inferior' players around him. neil for example scoffed at jones last season so why would it be any more of an achievement if he was banging them in with torres beside him?

but it isn't saying that is it? hence the handicaps that are in place for the lesser leagues. hence larsson needing to score far more than the players in the top leagues to win it.

[pink_triangle]

i don't see why though. why should his acheivements be looked down upon because he's scoring goals with 'inferior' players around him. neil for example scoffed at jones last season so why would it be any more of an achievement if he was banging them in with torres beside him?

but it isn't saying that is it? hence the handicaps that are in place for the lesser leagues. hence larsson needing to score far more than the players in the top leagues to win it.

[worm]

Kevin phillips was great at what he did but he is certainly not comparible to the premiership greats like henry, ronaldo, fowler, wright etc

Edited November 16, 2010 by worm

[eFestivals]

Kevin phillips was great at what he did but he is certainly not comparible to the premiership greats like henry, ronaldo, fowler, wright etc

What a crock of shit.

You are top four obsessed. They all play for the top four elite.

and those clubs are the "top four elite" because of what?

As ever, you display a wealth of in-depth knowledge.

Oh, so Shearer isn't a premiership great then?

He single handedly won a small club the premiership title

As ever, you display a wealth of in-depth knowledge.

You're spouting blatently obvious and illogical garbage.

self-criticism is a good thing.

[TheGayTent]

Why are people bothering to attempt to analyse in depth the merits or not of Ngog and Bent?

Anyone who claims Ngog is a better player than Bent is an imbecile.

Shearer, Le Tissier, Di Canio etc never played for a big club - means they weren't good enough for a top four club right?

Or alternatively they were all courted for top four clubs and told them to go forth and multiply...?

[jump]

In other news Pires has joined Villa.

[eFestivals]

Or alternatively they were all courted for top four clubs and told them to go forth and multiply...?

That might be true of those you name, but it's not true of Bent.

[The Nal]

Oh, so Shearer isn't a premiership great then?

He single handedly won a small club the premiership title and scored hundreds of goals for a club who regularly finished mid-table.

[ampersand]

No he did not.

[TheGayTent]

That might be true of those you name, but it's not true of Bent.

[pink_triangle]

What a crock of shit.

You are top four obsessed. They all play for the top four elite.

Oh, so Shearer isn't a premiership great then?

He single handedly won a small club the premiership title and scored hundreds of goals for a club who regularly finished mid-table. How is this any different to Bent keeping Sunderland up last season and Phillips keeping Sunderland in 7th for two consecutive seasons as the league's top scorer?

And what about Le Tissier? Was he just 'decent' because he was at Southampton?

You're spouting blatently obvious and illogical garbage. Anyone can discern for themselves that Shearer was a great, Le Tissier was class and that Phillips deserves high praise indeed.

[pink_triangle]

Why are people bothering to attempt to analyse in depth the merits or not of Ngog and Bent?

Anyone who claims Ngog is a better player than Bent is an imbecile.

Shearer, Le Tissier, Di Canio etc never played for a big club - means they weren't good enough for a top four club right?

Or alternatively they were all courted for top four clubs and told them to go forth and multiply...?

[pink_triangle]

In other news Pires has joined Villa.

[ampersand]

However Im not sure about di canio or le tis. I think both liked being a big fish in a smalll pond and think they would have suffered at a team with higher expectiations and more pressure.

[Steve P]

I love pires, at his peak he was a joy to watch. I also respect the fact in the past he refused to use an agent.

[The Nal]

He was one of the best players ever to wear an Arsenal shirt. His combination play with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira and Ljungberg was a joy to behold.

[TheGayTent]

However Im not sure about di canio or le tis. I think both liked being a big fish in a smalll pond and think they would have suffered at a team with higher expectiations and more pressure.

[TheGayTent]

i dunno if di canio is the best example. he did play for milan did he not?

[pink_triangle]

Ah but that wasn't the argument. The argument was that players hadn't played for top 4 clubs weren't quality and this was backed by the fact that big clubs weren't interested in them. But it doesn't add up as there can be more than one reason for a player not playing for a top four club.

I'll be told next Trevor Brooking wasn't quality. After all never even finished a season in the top four, and indeed spent some of his career in a lower division.

It's poppycock - there are no hard and fast rules and each player should be judged on their merits - not on criteria invented by morons in an attempt to substantiate their bollocks and inknowledgeable point of view...

Anyway, the fact remains Bent is a far better player than Ngog

[worm]

No he did not.

[worm]

and those clubs are the "top four elite" because of what?

[worm]

Why are people bothering to attempt to analyse in depth the merits or not of Ngog and Bent?

Anyone who claims Ngog is a better player than Bent is an imbecile.

Shearer, Le Tissier, Di Canio etc never played for a big club - means they weren't good enough for a top four club right?

Or alternatively they were all courted for top four clubs and told them to go forth and multiply...?

[funkymp]

awesome, Alex is out for 6-8 weeks and Terry could be out for months... just leaves us with Iva really hope Bruma manages to step up to the plate if he gets his chance... we're fowked defensively... december is gonna be fun

[Cardboard Box City]

Why are people bothering to attempt to analyse in depth the merits or not of Ngog and Bent?

Anyone who claims Ngog is a better player than Bent is an imbecile.

Shearer, Le Tissier, Di Canio etc never played for a big club - means they weren't good enough for a top four club right?