International Politics

[steviewevie]

Assad has gone, either fled or dead. Amazing how quickly this all happened, I guess without support from Russia or Hezbollah it was always a matter of time.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

Israel trying to f**k things up.

[doogie]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Israel trying to f**k things up.

 

On the contrary, they're destroying Syria's stocks of chemical and other weapons that could be used catastrophically if they got into the wrong hands.

[steviewevie]

30 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

On the contrary, they're destroying Syria's stocks of chemical and other weapons that could be used catastrophically if they got into the wrong hands.

And making more enemies of whoever takes over.

[doogie]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

And making more enemies of whoever takes over.

 

The middle east has always been a tough neighbourhood with no shortage of natural enemies for Israel.  At times like these it doesn't hurt to remind whoever takes over not to f**k with them.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, doogie said:

 

The middle east has always been a tough neighbourhood with no shortage of natural enemies for Israel.  At times like these it doesn't hurt to remind whoever takes over not to f**k with them.

Ok...just it's a perilous time for Syria...the region needs a stable outcome...and Israel wading in definitely is not going to help with that.

[GhostOfMaurice]

Yeah, it'd be better for Israel just to leave all of the deadly weapons for ❓❓❓❓ to get hold of. 

 

Keeping in mind the latest BBC news headline is: Syrian rebels to name Assad officials wanted for torture as fighters say 40 bodies found 🤔 

Edited December 10, 2024 by GhostOfMaurice

[steviewevie]

Maybe someone should destroy all of Israel's weapons because they seem to be using them against their neighbours the most.

[doogie]

14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Maybe someone should destroy all of Israel's weapons because they seem to be using them against their neighbours the most.

 

Well if they did that, Israel would cease to exist.

 

Given nearly half of all Jews live there, think carefully before suggesting that would be a good thing.

[steviewevie]

12 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

Well if they did that, Israel would cease to exist.

 

Given nearly half of all Jews live there, think carefully before suggesting that would be a good thing.

I mean this is always used an excuse...kill them before they kill us etc...but maybe they've pushed that a bit far recently....

[Skip997]

On 12/10/2024 at 9:42 AM, steviewevie said:

Israel trying to f**k things up.

As they do 

[GhostOfMaurice]

On 12/10/2024 at 3:51 PM, steviewevie said:

I mean this is always used an excuse...kill them before they kill us etc...but maybe they've pushed that a bit far recently....

 

If anyone is entitled to use that "excuse" at this moment in time, it's Israel. 

[steviewevie]

9 hours ago, GhostOfMaurice said:

 

If anyone is entitled to use that "excuse" at this moment in time, it's Israel. 

I guess someone in Palestine might think they have this same excuse.

Edited December 12, 2024 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

This is going to be a bit of a thing with Trump on the way...some countries are going to struggle to meet that 3% target (including us)

[lost]

Huge issue. Infact without Nato, I'm not sure the european social democratic model would even work?

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, lost said:

Huge issue. Infact without Nato, I'm not sure the european social democratic model would even work?

I think Europe might need to stop thinking they can always rely on US to provide their security.

[GhostOfMaurice]

3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

I guess someone in Palestine might think they have this same excuse.

 

That's why the whole situation needs diplomacy from that outside and pressure to back down.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, GhostOfMaurice said:

 

That's why the whole situation needs diplomacy from that outside and pressure to back down.

yes, diplomacy...which is exactly what is need in Syria at this delicate time...not land grab and blow up all their weapons.

[Skip997]

15 hours ago, GhostOfMaurice said:

 

If anyone is entitled to use that "excuse" at this moment in time, it's Israel. 

FFS

 

Israeli is deliberately engaging in genocide. If you don’t believe me, how about the ICC?

[doogie]

4 hours ago, Skip997 said:

FFS

 

Israeli is deliberately engaging in genocide. If you don’t believe me, how about the ICC?

 

I must have missed the bit where the ICC (or the ICJ) actually ruled that Israel had engaged in genocide, because I don't believe it has.

[Skip997]

4 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

I must have missed the bit where the ICC (or the ICJ) actually ruled that Israel had engaged in genocide, because I don't believe it has.

I must have misread or misunderstood the bit where it clearly did 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

I must have missed the bit where the ICC (or the ICJ) actually ruled that Israel had engaged in genocide, because I don't believe it has.

No, it hasn't.

But it probably will...surely you can see that.

There was an argument that they weren't last winter...but that doesn't hold up now...directing people to safe areas and then bombing those areas, limiting aid etc.

I am not against Israel existing, and I understand why they feel to go above and beyond in protecting themselves because of existential threats made by some groups or regimes, because of what has happened in past, and the Oct 7th attacks were horrific, but what they have carried out in last 12 months is abhorrent. A lot of this is Netanyahu and others in his government. I don't wish death on people as a rule, but I want someone to kill Netanyahu. He is a major c**t. Most of the world would likely celebrate too, including many in Israel I expect.

Edited December 12, 2024 by steviewevie

[doogie]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

No, it hasn't.

But it probably will...surely you can see that.

There was an argument that they weren't last winter...but that doesn't hold up now...directing people to safe areas and then bombing those areas, limiting aid etc.

I am not against Israel existing, and there I understand why they feel to go above and beyond in protecting themselves because of existential threats made by some groups or regimes, and the Oct 7th attacks were horrific, but what they have carried out in last 12 months is abhorrent. A lot of this is Netanyahu and others in his government. I don't wish death on people as a rule, but I want someone to kill Netanyahu. He is a major c**t. Most of the world would likely celebrate too, including many in Israel I expect.

 

We can't assume they will as it's rightly a high bar, and it's particularly emotive when directed at the Jewish state, given the tragic history of the Jews over the years.

 

I agree Netanyahu is a c**t, but he's no worse than a lot of other c**t leaders around the world.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

We can't assume they will as it's rightly a high bar, and it's particularly emotive when directed at the Jewish state, given the tragic history of the Jews over the years.

 

I agree Netanyahu is a c**t, but he's no worse than a lot of other c**t leaders around the world.

I listened to a pretty interesting podcast about him the other day...his whole family thing, the amount of time he spent in the US, and the fact he has been so successful at the same time as being so disliked.