news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

Just now, mattiloy said:

 

’The right wing bloc needs to form a govt with SD (the swedish far right party founded by ex SS members)’

…

’the most important thing is that Sweden gets a right wing govt and so one needs to be pragmatic’

Always worth doing a bit of digging when you read some sensational claim justified by a mere ’reportedly’.

Its not hard and you’ll usually find that the writer is funded by some shady right wing organisation or other.

Found any pics of the academic at a party with Epstein yet?

I don't care about the publication, she's appeared all sorts of places for her expertise on Yemen 

[mattiloy]

5 minutes ago, lost said:

Which bit is the conspiracy? that in Yemen there is a proxy war going on between Saudi and Iran? That Iran also funds Hamas or Iran can coordinate the groups it funds?

That Iran and the Houthis were in on October 7th because the Houthis had militarised islands in the gulf (a googling of that quickly shows that they’ve been doing this for years).

Maybe the Houthis and Iran were in on it. But there is so far, zero evidence of that, so its pure conjecture and conspiracy theorist. This hawkish, right wing neolib academic is contributing one gentle nudge (amongst many to come from the MSM, thinktanks etc) to the reader to edge them into a mindset where regional escalation is an appropriate course of action. Thats how it works - trust me bro the houthis militarised some islands for the last few years, therefore they knew about october the 7th, so lets bomb their kids too!

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

That Iran and the Houthis were in on October 7th because the Houthis had militarised islands in the gulf (a googling of that quickly shows that they’ve been doing this for years).

Maybe the Houthis and Iran were in on it. But there is so far, zero evidence of that, so its pure conjecture and conspiracy theorist. This hawkish, right wing neolib academic is contributing one gentle nudge (amongst many to come from the MSM, thinktanks etc) to the reader to edge them into a mindset where regional escalation is an appropriate course of action. Thats how it works - trust me bro the houthis militarised some islands for the last few years, therefore they knew about october the 7th, so lets bomb their kids too!

Sounds a bit conspiracyish

[mattiloy]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Sounds a bit conspiracyish

Its a simple deduction. A sensational, provocative claim without any citation made by an academic writing for a dark money right wing think tank = ulterior motive. The only real conjecture on my part is the motive. But its usually ultimately in order to bomb more sh*t.

[steviewevie]

Just now, mattiloy said:

Its a simple deduction. A sensational, provocative claim without any citation made by an academic writing for a dark money right wing think tank = ulterior motive. The only real conjecture on my part is the motive. But its usually ultimately in order to bomb more sh*t.

she was on channel 4 last night.

There is this thing called for axis of resistance right? And they do want the destruction of Israel? Or is that all made up by the Jews so they can kill Arabs?

[mattiloy]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

she was on channel 4 last night.

There is this thing called for axis of resistance right? And they do want the destruction of Israel? Or is that all made up by the Jews so they can kill Arabs?

They are allies yes. That October the 7th was coordinated by Hamas, Iran and the Houthis together is a dangerous leap and based on nothing, so conspiratorial.

It could become the WMD factor.

[steviewevie]

22 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

That Iran and the Houthis were in on October 7th because the Houthis had militarised islands in the gulf (a googling of that quickly shows that they’ve been doing this for years).

Maybe the Houthis and Iran were in on it. But there is so far, zero evidence of that, so its pure conjecture and conspiracy theorist. This hawkish, right wing neolib academic is contributing one gentle nudge (amongst many to come from the MSM, thinktanks etc) to the reader to edge them into a mindset where regional escalation is an appropriate course of action. Thats how it works - trust me bro the houthis militarised some islands for the last few years, therefore they knew about october the 7th, so lets bomb their kids too!

Hamas have been planning that attack for a number of years too? Iran is playing the long game.

[Neil]

21 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Sounds a bit conspiracyish

Yeah anything is justified if its attacking the evil Iranians  yanks got unfinished grudges with them Just like they had with Saddam 

[steviewevie]

Just now, Neil said:

Yeah anything is justified if its attacking the evil Iranians  yanks got unfinished grudges with them Just like they had with Saddam 

I don't think either side wants all out war to be honest, despite what some might think. But we are heading that way. 

In the end a solution needs to be found for Gaza, ceasefire, release of hostages etc etc forever. Maybe something will come out of this Hague court case.

[stuie]

What do you guys make of this? 
Is he preparing for a May election? 

https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1745523516823179442?s=46
 

 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, stuie said:

What do you guys make of this? 
Is he preparing for a May election? 

https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1745523516823179442?s=46
 

 

I don’t think this is a clue as it can be done up to 12 months before an election but generally I think he’s planning a May election. 

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, stuie said:

What do you guys make of this? 
Is he preparing for a May election? 

https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1745523516823179442?s=46
 

 

yeah I think Ozanne posted this yesterday. Does make May more likely I guess, but still think autumn the most likely at moment, but who knows. Think they'd be mental to have election in 5 months time, unless they're going to cut all taxes for the lols in the budget.

[Neil]

47 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Last couple of days since you have graced us again with your presence all I have seen from you is veiled abused and snide little digs.  Your usual MO while pretending you are better than everyone else.

I'm sure you happily lauded hitler when he died for being supportive of Corbyns agenda.

Not every who dies is worthy of respect. The piss was taken for her name dropping when alive and it was a stupid bet with the clash. These things remain true after her death.and she wasn't great on the radio 

[Guest]

Just now, steviewevie said:

yeah I think Ozanne posted this yesterday. Does make May more likely I guess, but still think autumn the most likely at moment, but who knows. Think they'd be mental to have election in 5 months time, unless they're going to cut all taxes for the lols in the budget.

If they end up waiting till Nov it could be even worse!

[steviewevie]

Just now, Ozanne said:

If they end up waiting till Nov it could be even worse!

well yeah, it is a gamble I guess.

[stuie]

Ah ok, it’s not as exciting as it sounds then. I thought he was getting ready for the off! 

[Neil]

8 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I think you replied to the wrong person ? 

i have sorry, not always so easy to do on a phone.

[steviewevie]

Houthis fired a missile at a Russian ship thinking it was linked to UK. 🤔

[Guest]

 

[lazyred]

Sadiq Khan talking out of his arse again

 

[steviewevie]

42 minutes ago, lazyred said:

Sadiq Khan talking out of his arse again

 

yeah, to be honest just saying ridiculous numbers doesn't help any rejoin cause.

[steviewevie]

 

[mattiloy]

19 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Spineless stuff. And just a big slathering of unnecessary bureacracy which will no doubt let the ones who can afford the best lawyers to wriggle out of it.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 

‘Under an option being considered’

’research suggest’

So nothing has changed. 

[Guest]

I wonder who The Guardian supports, they hates Corbyn, seem to have this stories against Starmer’s Labour. What is their goal? Are they Lib Dem?

Not having a go at them, they are my news paper of choice but they seem pretty odd.