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[Crazyfool01]

Just now, cellar said:

"via disappearing WhatsApp"

How topical 😅

I mean we dont its all on record 🙂 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

bans are time limited and yes at the moment there isnt clarity amongst the rules as to how long . its a bit of a blunt instrument and id hope people learn a little from previous bans . There is a point where that stops and people have had permanent bans ... that might not be the point you'd like however 

Some people do definitely learn from bans. I think there is an issue sometimes with how mods and how they exercise the rules we do have, which to be honest is something I don't think written rules will solve because if a mod doesn't want to ban someone then they won't.

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

You don't think this comment applies to you? You really need to become more self aware.

I think self awareness is an absolutely fair point 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Ozanne said:

Some people do definitely learn from bans. I think there is an issue sometimes with how mods and how they exercise the rules we do have, which to be honest is something I don't think written rules will solve because if a mod doesn't want to ban someone then they won't.

everyone will complain and do frequently that their own POV isnt being responded to , for example here both you and Barry both from opposite side of the divide , so maybe you dont get what you hope to sometimes and maybe Barry feels unjustly done to at others , whoever the mods are its not an exact or far from perfect science , its not easy as any mod will attest . The rules will give some clarity and hopefully will include some timelines of ban periods and an appeal process 

[Guest]

Just now, Crazyfool01 said:

everyone will complain and do frequently that their own POV isnt being responded to , for example here both you and Barry both from opposite side of the divide , so maybe you dont get what you hope to sometimes and maybe Barry feels unjustly done to at others , whoever the mods are its not an exact or far from perfect science , its not easy as any mod will attest . The rules will give some clarity and hopefully will include some timelines of ban periods and an appeal process 

That is true but sometimes mods do offer possibly questionable behaviour too. Once I had a mod send me a DM requesting I report a specific post from someone so that mod had a reason to ban a poster. Is that ok?

It's stuff like this and general trends that don't fill me with confidence with these new rules.

[Skip997]

2 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

 The rules will give some clarity and hopefully will include some timelines of ban periods and an appeal process 

Rules? I didn't know we had rules.

Anyway IMO the moderation on this forum is very tolerant.

[Crazyfool01]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

That is true but sometimes mods do offer possibly questionable behaviour too. Once I had a mod send me a DM requesting I report a specific post from someone so that mod had a reason to ban a poster. Is that ok?

It's stuff like this and general trends that don't fill me with confidence with these new rules.

where I pointed you to existing rules ? 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

This the fair and level playing field in operation?

I can send you the current rules if you want them 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

Does it contain the "context" defence?

no idea 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

where I pointed you to existing rules ? 

I’m not going to go into specifics but it didn’t go exactly like that. I don’t know if that type of thing is ok or not but it highlights how at times maybe mods might not do the right thing and opens up questions. 

[squirrelarmy]

20 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

That is true but sometimes mods do offer possibly questionable behaviour too. Once I had a mod send me a DM requesting I report a specific post from someone so that mod had a reason to ban a poster. Is that ok?

It's stuff like this and general trends that don't fill me with confidence with these new rules.

Have the new rules been posted yet? What happened to just being nice to each other without trying to cause drama

[steviewevie]

I think the mods are great.

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Have the new rules been posted yet? What happened to just being nice to each other without trying to cause drama

think we are planning on doing some work over Christmas ... possibly Christmas Day 

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, Crazyfool01 said:

think we are planning on doing some work over Christmas ... possibly Christmas Day 

Nice time to make a clean break and put all the past forum conflict behind us and based on how the debates are going in the commons this evening we could be on an election countdown too

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, squirrelarmy said:

Nice time to make a clean break and put all the past forum conflict behind us and based on how the debates are going in the commons this evening we could be on an election countdown too

sadly looks like a govt win by 20 ish id guess 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Nice time to make a clean break and put all the past forum conflict behind us and based on how the debates are going in the commons this evening we could be on an election countdown too

next year could get ugly. 

[squirrelarmy]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

next year could get ugly. 

Did you see Nick Fletchers statement? That was eye opening 

 

link for those interested https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/26b0dd30-b987-4d9c-8a2b-a6e6915e6019?in=17:17:03

Edited December 12, 2023 by squirrelarmy

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Nice time to make a clean break and put all the past forum conflict behind us and based on how the debates are going in the commons this evening we could be on an election countdown too

Nah Sunak is gonna win and he should win this easily. He has a big majority after all. I imagine the media will try to portray it as a massive accomplishment though. 

[Crazyfool01]

10 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Did you see Nick Fletchers statement? That was eye opening 

 

link for those interested https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/26b0dd30-b987-4d9c-8a2b-a6e6915e6019?in=17:17:03

Jesus f**king Christ is he BNP ? 

Edited December 12, 2023 by Crazyfool01

[steviewevie]

How the f**k did Mark Francois become so important?

[squirrelarmy]

4 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Jesus f**king Christ is he BNP ? 

Average red wall new Tory. 

[steviewevie]

 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, steviewevie said:

 

abstain then ? 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

abstain then ? 

Yes, then try and amend.

Yawn.

[squirrelarmy]

You have to wonder why the Tories have 5 separate right wing groups. Do they all try to one up each other about how sh*t they can be?