The National

[Zoo Music Girl]

Glad you liked them all

I know exactly what you mean about Lean, it's stirring, and sad and beautiful, but yeah, it does dissolve from the memory. Trouble Will Find me is a real grower - it gets its hooks into you and before you know it you are listening to it, literally, every day like an addict. Maybe that's just me...

Yeah, I realised it was you, Kylie - what's the new name a reference to?

And, oh, you're a fellow veggie, too. This gets worse... please tell me you're actually a burly man, named Brian, with hairy shoulders.

After saying that last night, I then woke up with Lean in my head, so maybe it has its hooks into me already I like albums that are growers generally. The ones that hit you instantly can often fade down the line.

Zoo Music Girl is a Birthday Party song - go look it up, it's awesome.

(And yes I am a man called Brian. Sorry.)

[Al2006]

Playing BST Hyde park next summer- looking more likely

[Zoo Music Girl]

Gah! That's exciting. Very tempted to go along just for them but I know hardly anything about Neil Young. Perhaps a good reason to educate myself.

Edit: bloody expensive though! £66.60-£220.89!

Edited December 9, 2013 by Zoo Music Girl

[russycarps]

how can they have such differing prices for an outdoor standing gig?

[Zoo Music Girl]

I'm guessing it will be tiered like the Stones show was? In which case I'm out. Not paying £60 to watch The National from the back of the park.

Maybe they'll do a warm-up gig somewhere though. Fingers crossed.

[russycarps]

I'm guessing it will be tiered like the Stones show was? In which case I'm out. Not paying £60 to watch The National from the back of the park.

Maybe they'll do a warm-up gig somewhere though. Fingers crossed.

do you mean there will be raised seating areas at the sides? but all standing in the middle? If so, thats fine.

Or do you mean to stand at the front will cost £200 and to stand at the back is £60? Surely not??

[Zoo Music Girl]

do you mean there will be raised seating areas at the sides? but all standing in the middle? If so, thats fine.

Or do you mean to stand at the front will cost £200 and to stand at the back is £60? Surely not??

Well obviously I don't know. The Stones had tiered standing though so you paid like £400 to be in the front enclosure, £200 for the second and £100 for the back. Plus there was raised seating at the sides and a whole raft of VIP options.

On the BST site it has about 6 options ranging from "premium view" to "covered standing", whatever that means.

[russycarps]

Well obviously I don't know. The Stones had tiered standing though so you paid like £400 to be in the front enclosure, £200 for the second and £100 for the back. Plus there was raised seating at the sides and a whole raft of VIP options.

On the BST site it has about 6 options ranging from "premium view" to "covered standing", whatever that means.

ha fuck that then. It will be the same format as the stones I'd have thought.

The sound is bound to be shit too

[Zoo Music Girl]

ha fuck that then. It will be the same format as the stones I'd have thought.

The sound is bound to be shit too

Sound is always shit for Hyde Park!

I think this makes The National more likely for Glastonbury though so this has cheered me nonetheless.

[zahidf]

From the map, it looks like half of the front bit is exclusive, and the left isn't

http://www.bst-hydepark.com/map

[CaledonianGonzo]

Yeah - at the Stones last year only one side of the stage was a VIP arena.

The other half was a free-for-all, though obviously people were queuing up from the crack of dawn to get a decent spot. Standing out all day in the sun was a bit of a mare, if I'm honest...

[Zoo Music Girl]

Yeah - at the Stones last year only one side of the stage was a VIP arena.

The other half was a free-for-all, though obviously people were queuing up from the crack of dawn to get a decent spot. Standing out all day in the sun was a bit of a mare, if I'm honest...

My mistake - I'd thought the whole of the front was VIP. I was on the disabled viewing platform anyway so didn't have to queue but can bet it was a nightmare in that heat.

[CaledonianGonzo]

People were dropping like flies in the sun. My mate went doolally halfway through Hony Tonk Women so we had to walk out of the crowd from about 8 rows back, so even after all that waiting I still watched 2/3rds of the gig from the back!

[Zoo Music Girl]

It was unbelievably hot that day. Remember just feeling like I was melting during Gary Clark Jr.

[russycarps]

From the map, it looks like half of the front bit is exclusive, and the left isn't

http://www.bst-hydepark.com/map

haha that's mental.

Superior viewing area, Premium viewing area. What a pile of shit.

[mrtourette]

Unless all the acts are going to stand at one end of the stage that supervior viewing area doesn't look particulalrly superior.

[LondonTom]

Unless all the acts are going to stand at one end of the stage that supervior viewing area doesn't look particulalrly superior.

Nah its more for people to feel "special" than the view anyway.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Isn't the idea that if you have those tickets you won't have to queue? Kind of guaranteed good spot. It's a rip-off though and becoming more and more common.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Yup - it's so you don't have to spend all day standing stagefront in order to be able to see the band without using binoculars.

[GlastoSimon]

This VIP nonsense is starting to piss me off a bit, so much of it around. I don't think pricing should limit where you are able to stand anyway.

[Zoo Music Girl]

This VIP nonsense is starting to piss me off a bit, so much of it around. I don't think pricing should limit where you are able to stand anyway.

I agree, it is a load of bollocks.

After my initial excitement this morning, I am now wondering if The National playing this gig actually makes them *less* likely for Glastonbury. I'm guessing this gig would pay more and perhaps even offer a higher billing. They don't seem especially fussed by Glastonbury given that I would have expected them there last year.

[Dog Burger]

I agree, it is a load of bollocks.

After my initial excitement this morning, I am now wondering if The National playing this gig actually makes them *less* likely for Glastonbury. I'm guessing this gig would pay more and perhaps even offer a higher billing. They don't seem especially fussed by Glastonbury given that I would have expected them there last year.

I've gone through a fairly similar range of emotions to you today.

When I read about this, this morning, I was immediately excited and keen to go. Now, having thought about it - at that price, and for an outdoor support slot, I'm less sure. Particularly as I'm already going to Denmark. Doing this would rule out Glastonbury, financially. And I won't know if they're playing Glastonbury for a few months yet, so I think I'll probably hedge my bets and wait.

I initially thought, like you, that if they were going to do Glastonbury then last year was the year - I was really shocked and disappointed they didn't. But having thought about it, I think maybe they wanted Trouble Will Find Me to build and grow organically, to become really expert at playing it, and that this summer we'll see them do some really high-profile gigs. The headline slot for Northside and this show with Neil Young certainly suggest that, off the back of the Ally Pally shows and the tour with Foo Fighters. I think 2014 is the year that they become, relatively speaking, 'massive'.

[Zoo Music Girl]

I hope you're right! If I was a Neil Young fan I reckon I'd be all over it but he remains on my 'To explore' list and it is bloody expensive. Also the fact it won't be an audience of their fans but people waiting for him puts me off too. I want them to do another gig! Really hoping they will.

Didn't even know they toured with Foo Fighters. That seems an odd combination.

Northside is a way better option in my opinion. There's three bands I'd want to see for a start and probably way better value for money.

[Dog Burger]

I hope you're right! If I was a Neil Young fan I reckon I'd be all over it but he remains on my 'To explore' list and it is bloody expensive. Also the fact it won't be an audience of their fans but people waiting for him puts me off too. I want them to do another gig! Really hoping they will.

Didn't even know they toured with Foo Fighters. That seems an odd combination.

Northside is a way better option in my opinion. There's three bands I'd want to see for a start and probably way better value for money.

Yeah it's Northside plus one other for me. Hopefully that one other will be Glastonbury

The Foo Fighters tour is just Mexico and South America and is going on now, then they have a few more dates in America. I think it's another sign of their increasing 'mainstream' appeal building.

After that, they go to Australia and Asia in February, and then there's a gap at the moment until Northside and Hyde Park. It's ripe for a fair few more European and British festival shows in the spring I reckon.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Yeah it's Northside plus one other for me. Hopefully that one other will be Glastonbury

The Foo Fighters tour is just Mexico and South America and is going on now, then they have a few more dates in America. I think it's another sign of their increasing 'mainstream' appeal building.

After that, they go to Australia and Asia in February, and then there's a gap at the moment until Northside and Hyde Park. It's ripe for a fair few more European and British festival shows in the spring I reckon.

Your knowledge of their movements is very impressive. Definitely living up to your title of #1 Fan