Peter Dow

[russycarps]

You think wrong. I confessed nothing, My claim is not fraudulent. My claim is 100% genuine.

I have a sick note for "stress", stress which was caused by many years of living under the threat and actually of my benefits being sanctioned.

Now that I am on income support (not "disability" as far as I know) and the threat to my benefit is reduced then I am coping with the stress much better thanks.

Yes but stick it up the Queen's backside for being head of state of a state which is denying civil liberties to us all and denying academics the freedom we need to sort out mismanagement of the universities and the economy.

[russycarps]

Genuine question to those more in the know than me; Is a computer science degree from 1983 actually worth the paper its written on nowadays?

[sifi]

Genuine question to those more in the know than me; Is a computer science degree from 1983 actually worth the paper its written on nowadays?

[Peter Dow]

I actually watched a couple of Peter's videos over the weekend.

All he seems to care about is independence for Scotland. That appears to be his sole aim. He isn't campaigning for a new world order.

Just independence for Scotland.

What an incredibly narrow minded, rather pointless thing to spend 20 years of your life worrying about.

The real "heroes" of any "revolution" will have set their sight MUCH higher.

The rest of the fluff he is spouting in this thread is not contained in his campaign videos.

Here is a slogan you can use next time Peter, free of charge.

"An independent Scotland - who gives a fucking shit?"

Edited December 13, 2011 by Peter Dow

[russycarps]

I care about people of the whole world, not just a tiny island in the atlantic.

I care more for inhabitants of countries who face real and genuine persecution and are under real dictatorships, than the inhabitants of scotland, who live a life of safe luxury (and yes, that includes you. You live a life of utter luxury in comparison to BILLIONS of people).

Why dont you campaign for those living under genuinely frightening regimes? Burma. Somalia. France?

hmm? hmmm? HMMMM?

[Peter Dow]

Here are a couple more of my videos, one from my "BritishFlagBearer" channel and one from my "BritishRepublican" channel on YouTube.

Leicester mother tormented to suicide & murder her child by a gang of louts.

London demonstration about deaths in police custody in England.

[Wooderson]

Wow great thread guys.

[Peter Dow]

tthe british rule over scotland and the afrikaner rule over south africa are indescribably different.

Peter is dedicating his life to a largely pointless campaign

Edited December 13, 2011 by Peter Dow

[russycarps]

There is no "British" rule over Scotland. The UK is anti-British. The UK denies British people the right to elect our own British president of a British republic.

Just as the apartheid state denied all South Africans the right to elect their president.

Just as many countries in the world do not democratically elect their head of state and get dictated to.

By far the best way to help all countries of the world become democratic and well governed is to make here in Britain properly democratic.

What is the biggest betrayal of the people of the whole world is for rich, privileged people like you russycarps, here on this island to turn a blind eye to the UK's lack of democracy and freedom here because thereby you send out a message to the world -

"Hey, democracy and freedom doesn't matter - all you need is wealth that we have in the UK - that's all I am concerned about - I have my flat screen TV and I'm fine - I don't need to elect a president so why should you? - so we'll send our business men to make deals with your dictator - you'll get a bit richer, you won't have freedom or democracy but so what? - that doesn't matter - I'm alright Jack and you'll be alright if you are nice to your dictator like I am nice to the Queen"

Fuck that attitude russycarps.

It is precisely your head in the sand attitude with regard to the UK which is causing you, yes you, to betray the oppressed people of the world.

Shame on you.

Anyway, since when do you give a shit about the people of the world? I thought dolphins and orangutans were your thing?

[Ed209]

Actually, I am interested in independent Scots, and I don't buy into the SNP version of an "independent Scotland" wherein the SNP want to keep the Queen and would only be the Queen's ministers who have any independence, the rest of us in Scotland would be treated as badly as we are today by the Queen's courts, police, ministers etc.

So I want a democratic republican revolution and a Scottish republic, not just an "independent Scotland".

But I suspect you may not give a "fucking shit" about independent Scots either. You may ask "Why should I?"

Well if Scotland is properly governed that means that we Scots will be in a better position to help the rest of Britain and the rest of the world.

Especially it makes sense for Scots, English, Welsh and Northern Irish to be concerned about each others governments because we have many of the same problems. We both get lied to by the same BBC telling us the Queen is good for us for example.

I would like to help all my fellow Britons rid ourselves of that Queen and set up republics for all the British home nations. As well, we could establish a British republic or a republican union of home nation republics.

Scotland's revolution could help you with your revolution, if you want it to.

I have posted videos before in this forum about deaths in England that could have been prevented but for the incompetence of the Queen's state.

English medical student killed in London

French students killed in London

Although my Scottish National Standard Bearer website, as the title says, is specifically addressed to Scots there are many issues discussed there of a wider interest.

These days I am concentrating more on my forums.

My "For Freedom Forums for robust political debate, inspired by Scots, open to all" which again the title makes clear is specifically welcoming to non Scots.

I am trying to reach out not only to the rest of Britain but to all the English-speaking world to see how we can help each other.

Here are a list of forum titles you can see that I have identified the specifically Scottish forums - only 3 out of 14

• Fight The Cuts

• Users and Guests

• Republican Intelligence

• The Shite Paper (SCOTTISH)

• Windsor loyalists

• The new Butcher's Apron (SCOTTISH)

• News interactive

• Scottish National Standard Bearer (SCOTTISH)

• Condoleezza Rice

• Socialist

• The Great and the Good

• Ireland

• Dissident Irish Republican Politics

• the Torch Meets the Rose

So 11 out of 14 forums are concerned with wider issues than just Scotland.

So I think your claim that my politics is "narrow minded" is unfair.

[Uncle Liam]

I've asked many times, and never got an answer. So I'll ask again: What exactly is a Scottish National Standard Bearer? Or what is it supposed to do?

Oh, and Ed, excellent points.

[fred quimby]

Peter

You do realise that if Scotland were to become a republic then the first thing it would do is join the Euro and become part of the united states of Europe, No bad thing, just saying like.

You ideas of Constituently Monarch conspiracy are near laughable, if it wasn't so sad. Really does look like you are looking for someone to blame for your own failings

[Kyelo]

Genuine question to those more in the know than me; Is a computer science degree from 1983 actually worth the paper its written on nowadays?

[Uncle Liam]

Is there an English National Standard Bearer? Or a Botswanan National Standard Bearer? I wonder if they got on TV as well.

[Peter Dow]

Peter is dedicating his life to a largely pointless campaign

Edited December 13, 2011 by Peter Dow

[Peter Dow]

I think you've probably nailed it with your second point - but only history will be the judge in the end, not you or I.

Edited December 14, 2011 by Peter Dow

[Kyelo]

Peter why do you think people don't support you?

[Peter Dow]

Oh the poor long suffering scots...

Edited December 14, 2011 by Peter Dow

[Peter Dow]

In his head, he is being hounded and persecuted by the agents of a fascist, monarchist authority, when actually he is a bloke who sits in his pants looking after a slightly eccentric website.

Edited December 14, 2011 by Peter Dow

[Peter Dow]

I dunno, I just find the border dispute in the UK faintly ridiculous. At least the Afrikaners were an invading force and discriminating the natives. The border between scotland and england (and wales) is just absurd. The whole island may as well be one. Or not. Who cars? It's just silly to care about it in this day and age. Keep the border, dont keep the border. Nothing will change for anyone on either side.

It's a rubbish thing to dedicate 20 years to. Really.

Fair enough in the 13th century, but now? Nah. There's much bigger fish to fry.

Edited December 14, 2011 by Peter Dow

[russycarps]

well Peter I think everyone on this messageboard agrees with you that we'd rather see the breakup of the monarchy. I guess where we all differ is you believe they wield much more power and influence than we do. Plus your methods regarding how to replace them differ from ours too

Can you please answer me one question: Have you ever been to glastonbury festival??

[Peter Dow]

Persecuted because his organisation bombed government buildings, planted mines and killed people? He was persecuted by state authorities alright, no doubt there, but not because of that.

Strange thread. The South Africa/Scotland comparisons in particular.

[Peter Dow]

Oh and should we start to oranise the concerts for Free Peter Dow

[eFestivals]

Please don't confuse me and my politics with the SNP who only want to change the UK into the UKs. The SNP only want to change the United Kingdom into the United Kingdoms.

Try to remember I am campaigning against the SNP plan. I want a Scottish republic which is different.

I reckon that the SNP do too Peter - but that they're playing a smarter political game than you're able to recognise.

They've not ruled out becoming a republic, they simply say that's another question to be decided by the Scottish people at another time to the question of independence.

If they tried to combine the two issues, they'd lose support for independence because there will be some people who are happy to be independent but who do not want to be a republic.

Once there is an independent Scotland, then a republic starts to become more of a realistic possibility - more so than it would be right now, because a foreign monarch would have a logically lesser place in an independent Scotland than it does in a Scotland as a part of the UK.

As a general rule, people strongly dislike change because the possibilities from that change scare them. Any politician who tries to push for change too quickly ends up falling due to that. For example, Thatcher could have got the public to accept the Poll Tax if it hadn't have been another change on top of the many others she pushed thru. Had she waited a few years before trying it she would have been successful.

So the SNP are asking for a change - a big change - but they're keeping the change they're asking for as small as possible by excluding the monarchy from the question for the moment. They stand far more chance of winning both battles if the attacks come separately rather than together.

Slowly slowly catchee monkey.

[Peter Dow]

Yes, his views are unfashionable. They're about as dangerous to anyone as a fart in a thunderstorm, but hey ho.

What I dont see is Dow being oppressed or persecuted as a result of his ideas.