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the problem is you are putting yourself "out there" with your somewhat unconventional posts. You have to expect a certain amount of ridicule and scorn. It's the way of the world.
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If the monarchy ceased to exist all that would change is we have a different picture on our coins and banknotes, and the government would save a few million quid a year.

Absolutely nothing of any real consequence whatsoever would change. Only, and sorry if you think this is unfair Peter, a cretin of gargantuan magnitude would think otherwise.

Sure, I'd love to see the monarchy dismantled, but compared to the rest of the worlds problems this is a microscopic concern. As is the break up of the United Kingdom or not. Independence for Scotland? I could not give a shiney shite. It matters not a jot.

You appear to have some kind of passion and drive, such a shame you are wasting it so completely.

And going back to your claims that you are a "leader". You demonstrate none of the communication skills, charisma and panache required by a strong leader. You have not persuaded a single person here by your arguments. In fact, even those of use who broadly share your views - abolishion of the monarchy - do not side with you.

You are, in fact, the polar opposite of a leader. You are almost making us want to support the monarchy just so we arent seen to side with you in any way whatsoever.

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I think independence for Scotland matters a bit more. It'd have a major impact on them, and a major impact on what governments we could form - English constituencies alone always provide a Tory victory, it's the scale of that victory that determines whether the Scottish + Welsh Labour constituences are enough to swing it to them.

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I agree with that, but I believe peter is under the impression that the dismantling of the monarchy and independence for scotland will somehow be the catalyst for change on a global scale, unless I have misunderstood some of his ramblings on his videos,

I'm still unsure how condeleeza rice fits into this whole thing though, Empress of the new world order I think, or something. Whatever it will be, it will involved both her and peter being naked from the waist down

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Again, you're miles behind the times. The BNP are in utter disarray. Humilated at the polls and in massive conflict internally.

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Griffin being on TV is one of the greatest things to happen for the anti-racism movement in this country in years.

He was exposed completely as a laughable, bumbling cretin. And support for the party subsequently crashed.

I agree the BNP are abhorrent. But giving them the opportunity to prove this, and their incompetence, to a wider audience is a good thing.

Banning them will create more problems than it solves.

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Griffin being on TV is one of the greatest things to happen for the anti-racism movement in this country in years.

He was exposed completely as a laughable, bumbling cretin. And support for the party subsequently crashed.

I agree the BNP are abhorrent. But giving them the opportunity to prove this, and their incompetence, to a wider audience is a good thing.

Banning them will create more problems than it solves.

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except they don't. Which is why they've not been banned. :rolleyes:

You and I might recognise the unspoken sub-text of what they plan to do, but until they're proven as not adhering to our laws around what is democracy, they're in the clear.

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Patrotism implies that people who live on/are born on (delete depending on views) one area of land in the world are somehow better than people who live elsewhere.
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So you're a democrat, that believes in banning people with opinions you disagree with from being allowed to run for government or attempt to influence policy? You say you're a leader, yet not only do you completely fail to inspire anyone, but you tell people they're stupid for not realising they should believe and follow you?

You're going to go far.

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no borders, means no borders. There wouldn't be other countries. There'd still be different cultures, which aren't governed by borders/countries, but you get different cultures within the borders anyway

you haven't thought this through very much, have you?

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