Football 2011-2012

[Lithium05]

Who would you have then?

[Jaybles]

Literally anyone else.

[kaosmark2]

I am interested to see what he can do with the squad. For one thing he will at least be able to talk to the players.

[thetime]

Me as well...

The likes of Neil will always call anyone who earns more than him a c**t and ask for their head to be removed but hey... Who cares...

So Harry for England ??

[eFestivals]

He didn't do it alone though did he...

Irrelevant. Tax law says that the payee is responsible for ensuring tax is paid on what they pay out*, and the recipient is responsible for declaring it.

(* for example, if a contractor I use doesn't pay their tax, HMRC can come to me for it)

[The Nal]

From an outsider looking in, 'Arry is absolutely perfect for the England job. Knows the players, a darling of the FA, part of the London media/FA/player love in so wont be open to the (pretty disgraceful) media attacks that the non English managers have had to put up with, and undoubtedly gets players playing for him. Something you haven't had since Robson, with the exception of El Tel.

Don't see the issue?

[kaosmark2]

Are 'Arry's advocates really suggesting that his status and the potential for England manager hasn't had an effect at all?

He didn't pay tax he was due to pay. In most cases that'd be as simple as. 'Arry's got good lawyers though, and despite making a reputation as a manager for his "wheelin' an' dealin'", his claim of business ignorance seems to have been believed.

[kaosmark2]

From an outsider looking in, 'Arry is absolutely perfect for the England job. Knows the players, a darling of the FA, part of the London media/FA/player love in so wont be open to the (pretty disgraceful) media attacks that the non English managers have had to put up with, and undoubtedly gets players playing for him. Something you haven't had since Robson, with the exception of El Tel.

Don't see the issue?

[thetime]

Are 'Arry's advocates really suggesting that his status and the potential for England manager hasn't had an effect at all?

He didn't pay tax he was due to pay. In most cases that'd be as simple as. 'Arry's got good lawyers though, and despite making a reputation as a manager for his "wheelin' an' dealin'", his claim of business ignorance seems to have been believed.

[The Nal]

No tactical nous,

[pink_triangle]

But, because of all the reasons he IS perfect, I think he should get it on a 4 year deal, he'd probably get us to semis/quarters at the WC and lose to one of the finalists and thus not have credibility damaged too much, then out at the QFs of the Euros.

[pink_triangle]

Thats not to say he cant do it. He plays very attacking football with Spurs. Foreign teams won't like that.

Thats all you need, short bursts. And look at he players he has and the players he has coming through for the 2014 World Cup.

Hart, Smalling, Jones, Richards, Cahill, Walker, Rodwell, Walcott, Milner, Cleverly, Wilshere, Johnson, Welbeck, Rooney.

Aren't many international managers with young players like that to chose from.

Who would people prefer?

[Ed209]

From an outsider looking in, 'Arry is absolutely perfect for the England job. Knows the players, a darling of the FA, part of the London media/FA/player love in so wont be open to the (pretty disgraceful) media attacks that the non English managers have had to put up with, and undoubtedly gets players playing for him. Something you haven't had since Robson, with the exception of El Tel.

Don't see the issue?

[kaosmark2]

Dunno about that and anyway, not always important in international football.

Thats not to say he cant do it. He plays very attacking football with Spurs. Foreign teams won't like that.

Thats all you need, short bursts. And look at he players he has and the players he has coming through for the 2014 World Cup.

Hart, Smalling, Jones, Richards, Cahill, Walker, Rodwell, Walcott, Milner, Cleverly, Wilshere, Johnson, Welbeck, Rooney.

Aren't many international managers with young players like that to chose from.

Who would people prefer?

[kaosmark2]

I think he would be really found out in a world cup in brazil, very different to managing a team in british conditions. I would be surprised if he got england to the semis but who knows. I also think it may be not the best time to take over, the golden generation being phased out and new young players coming in. There wont be a great deal of players in the 25-30 age range and it may be considered a trnasitional time.

[pink_triangle]

I expect England would romp the group stage, thus getting a favourable draw for the first knockout, hyping things up. Semis would depend on who we'd draw in the quarters. We'd look great until we came up against a top team that could play well, then get knocked out, make the excuses, keep him around for the Euros, by which time he'd get found out.

[kaosmark2]

I seem to remember that England would romp the group in 2010 England, Algeria, Slovenia, Yanks group, didnt quite happen and Im not sure it would in less favourable conditions with in my opinion a weaker squad.

[eFestivals]

From an outsider looking in, 'Arry is absolutely perfect for the England job. Knows the players, a darling of the FA, part of the London media/FA/player love in so wont be open to the (pretty disgraceful) media attacks that the non English managers have had to put up with, and undoubtedly gets players playing for him. Something you haven't had since Robson, with the exception of El Tel.

Don't see the issue?

He'll make Sven, BrollyWally and Postman Pat look like tactical genius'?

[Ed209]

Accounts reveal Chelsea spent £28million sacking Ancelloti and hiring AVB

Dont know whether to laugh or cry

[The Nal]

There's plenty of talent of equivalent level, we just hype all these players up because they're English and in the prem.

Edited February 8, 2012 by The Nal

[kaosmark2]

Regardless, theres 3-4 potential world class players in there. Maybe more.

[The Nal]

Yep, and I'm willing to bet that there's a good 8 or 9 other countries with similar quality players of similar potential. These are just the ones on our radar. I doubt many of us are aware of what exciting Italian youths are at clubs like Parma or Bologna or Palermo like we are of exciting prospects at Bolton, Blackburn, Everton etc.

(yes I know most of them have moved to big clubs now, but the point remains)

[eFestivals]

So who are the other candidates then? People will moan if its not an English manager so barring all foreigners.........

Yep. You're dead right of course, Harry is the outstanding candidate.

Which is what makes it all so awful, that that's how bad things are with the choice of English managers.

I think there's 9 Glaswegians currently managing in the Prem, plus another two Scotsmen. How many English?

[kaosmark2]

You're forgetting that most of the other leagues are shite by comparison. Two teams in Spain, 3 ok teams in Italy (not many young players either). Germany is the only other country with a decent league thats consistently churning out quality young players.

[kaosmark2]

Yep. You're dead right of course, Harry is the outstanding candidate.

Which is what makes it all so awful, that that's how bad things are with the choice of English managers.

I think there's 9 Glaswegians currently managing in the Prem, plus another two Scotsmen. How many English?

Edited February 8, 2012 by kaosmark2