Challenge 21

[ReadingRock007]

As stated above, people were getting Id'd at Reading last year even If they did have an over 18 band, either accept the band or just ask people to carry id around if they want to buy alcohol. Which can be seen as a pain, or just put it in a zipped pocket or pin a pocket closed!

[Kyelo]

The only way any festival can 100% be secure and adhere to laws is by having people carry ID(barring illegally made driving licenses etc), wristbands are never going to be able to do that.

[boskobalaban]

At supermarkets it's often built into the till system and some things are entered wrongly. A tesco till once told the cashier to check I was over 18 when I was buying a cabbage!?

[paulomas]

i'm 21 f**k you all

[glasto-worker]

@Glasto-worker, that's pretty outrageous about the wrist bands at latitude, hard to imagine what kind of "mix up" could've occured that would lead to non-id producing 11 and 12 year old kids being banded as 18+. Surely, just employing semi-intelligent people with half a mind or more to take care of it would be the solution to that one.

[John K]

It seems pretty careless at a festival insisting that people carry sensitive id docs around with them, they're the sort of thing that can cause at least serious inconvenience or possibly worse

[Wirephil]

My wife (29), was asked for ID in Tesco this weekend when buying vodka and.....ANTI WRINKLE CREAM...the irony!

[The60ftOctopus]

A Citizen Card or one of the other PASS cards seems like a good idea to me. Not just for festivals but for the real world as well - it's got to be better than taking your passport out clubbing for instance.

[ukslim]

How much time do bar staff "waste" doing ID checks? (glasto_worker?)

My gut feel is that because there are more older people at Glastonbury than at, say, Reading, they spend more of their time serving people who are obviously over 21, so less of their time is spent checking IDs.

Whereas at Reading, I'd guess that almost half the bar sales would be to people under, say, 25, so there would be a *lot* of ID checking, and hence wristbands make sense in order to speed things up.

I'm not sure what the law is, but it seems to me that a properly implemented wristband scheme should satisfy the police / licensing authorities.

But, that implementation costs money, so it's only worth doing if it saves the bar staff a certain amount of time overall.

[Douzeper]

18 is the legal drinking age...why Challenge 21? I have never got that and as for Challenge 25 which you see in bars in towns...

[saratink]

A Citizen Card or one of the other PASS cards seems like a good idea to me. Not just for festivals but for the real world as well - it's got to be better than taking your passport out clubbing for instance.

[Liam13th]

The only ID i have is a passport, and theres no way i'm taking that. I just hope this doesn't ruin my festival.

[fur_q]

A couple of years ago I showed a validate card with the pass hologram on to buy alcohol and I was told it wasn't good enough! I managed to go through my purse (it was like a Mary poppins purse) and found my driving license to show.

[MamaJojo]

wouldn't it just be simpler to have the birth date printed on the ticket for glasto, then when you come to enter and get your wristband, if you are under 18 you have one colour wristband and if you're over 18 you have another?

[fur_q]

But you enter your own registration details so how would a DOB printed on a ticket be validated

[ukslim]

wouldn't it just be simpler to have the birth date printed on the ticket for glasto, then when you come to enter and get your wristband, if you are under 18 you have one colour wristband and if you're over 18 you have another?

[Alcatraz]

I think you could work the wristband thing on an opt in basis

So, if you think you look under 21 and are likely to be ID'd but don't want to carry a form of ID with you all weekend, go to a tent on arrival (or anytime during the festival, or hey maybe even to a bar) and show them your ID and get a wristband in return. Otherwise, bar staff can continue to run ID checks on those they think look under 21

[topmarksbri]

@Glastoworker As someone who seems clued up on these things what alternative ID to Passport/driving license would you recommend? Not just at Glasto but generally, given how important passports and licenses are I hate having to take them out with me

[fur_q]

I think you could work the wristband thing on an opt in basis

So, if you think you look under 21 and are likely to be ID'd but don't want to carry a form of ID with you all weekend, go to a tent on arrival (or anytime during the festival, or hey maybe even to a bar) and show them your ID and get a wristband in return. Otherwise, bar staff can continue to run ID checks on those they think look under 21

[ukslim]

@Glastoworker As someone who seems clued up on these things what alternative ID to Passport/driving license would you recommend? Not just at Glasto but generally, given how important passports and licenses are I hate having to take them out with me

[rexclark]

She said it was 16, I was 22 at the time, Id never been asked before and never been asked since so maybe it is 12! Maybe she just wanted to laugh at my picture...

[posthuman]

How often do you lose your bank cards / ID while you're out drinking? I may be an exception, but (touch wood) have never lost a card / ID while out.

Yes, I wouldn't take my passport out with me, but your driving license is small, fits in your wallet, and is just *there* in case you need it.

I think people may be overreacting a little, I don't think you're any more or less likely to lose the contents of your wallet at Glasto vs a normal night out in town. If you really are that worried, there are other legal forms of ID that you can buy for not too much moolah.

[topmarksbri]

I'm not Glastoworker, but http://www.pass-scheme.org.uk/

That you don't already know this, means someone's not done a very good job of public education. (See also, my having to explain alcohol units in another thread).

[Welsh.bluebird]

I think its show your id then get a wristband.... if thats the case im getting the wristband and putting my id in my car and all that i may lose

[ukslim]

Because my study of Philosophy and Classics in public education obviously extensively covers the topic of age verification