Challenge 21

[LondonTom]

Right, whereas an ID system is flawless as no-one has fake ID or borrows a mate's. Not saying there aren't problems with the wristband system, but I actually think a single check done in good light is far better than it being checked every time at random bars... alas the UK legal system hasn't caught up.

[Kyelo]

Right, whereas an ID system is flawless as no-one has fake ID or borrows a mate's. Not saying there aren't problems with the wristband system, but I actually think a single check done in good light is far better than it being checked every time at random bars... alas the UK legal system hasn't caught up.

Edited May 24, 2011 by BenchBuddah

[posthuman]

This always cracks me up but no-one has ever actually explained to me the reasoning behind it - the validity period has sod-all to do with the thing on the ID that states your age, it's there for an entirely different reason.

[DeanoL]

There is a fairly common trick where people sell their legitimate out-of-date license to someone else, so that they can use it as ID.

This is why places don't accept out-of-date ID.

(*Yes, before you start, I know that this isn't 100% foolproof, and someone who was really motivated could sell their in-date ID, and get a replacement ID. But this is less common because 1) it requires more time and effort and 2) people are more reluctant to do so because it leaves them more open to identity theft)

[jimmystobo]

if people are so stupid that carrying a driving license in a wallet is some sort of challenge that they seriously doubt they will be able to do it for 5 days without losing it then they probably shouldn't be driving.

[glasto-worker]

How much time do bar staff "waste" doing ID checks? (glasto_worker?)

I'm not sure what the law is, but it seems to me that a properly implemented wristband scheme should satisfy the police / licensing authorities.

But, that implementation costs money, so it's only worth doing if it saves the bar staff a certain amount of time overall.

[posthuman]

Sorry to drag this up again, but I found the Licensing Committee Report from last year quite pertinent:

Test purchasing to be conducted in partnership with Avon and Somerset Constabulary, as per The Licensing Act 2003, was given the go ahead. The usual procedure when there is a sale of alcohol would be for the actual seller being issued with a Penalty Notice for Disorder (PND) by the Police followed by an investigation by Trading Standards of the owner of the alcohol. However, the intention was for the actual attempted purchase of age-restricted products to be conducted, as per standard procedure, covertly, but a “softly softly” approach would be adopted given the contentious nature of issuing PNDs to festival workers, who are mainly volunteers. Therefore it was decided that should any sales occur no further action would be taken except to inform the Festivals license holder, the owners of the alcohol and the company’s Home Authority after the festival.

[liamgazza]

I was 17 with facial hair at my first Glasto and never got ID'ed (sorry!) and last year I was 20 but clean shaven and got ID'ed all the time. Moral of the story is, don't trust the beard.

[glasto-worker]

Sorry to drag this up again, but I found the Licensing Committee Report from last year quite pertinent:

[Amii]

I was in Sainsburys last week and watched a 50+ year old man being refused alcohol for lack of ID....

Anyway. All this trying to beat the system is only jepardising the future of the festival. Enjoy being 17 and remembering the whole festival - quite wish I'd had that opportunity!!!

[skaggman]

I don't see the fuss about challenge 21 or 25 if your over 18 you should have ID, it doesnt matter how old you look, and you'll be served if your not then tough. Surely the older the challenge age the better as its less likely under age people will be served.

Obviously I thought the complete opposite before I turned 18 especially as I still look about 16 despite being 23.

[glasto-worker]

I don't see the fuss about challenge 21 or 25 if your over 18 you should have ID, it doesnt matter how old you look, and you'll be served if your not then tough. Surely the older the challenge age the better as its less likely under age people will be served.

Obviously I thought the complete opposite before I turned 18 especially as I still look about 16 despite being 23.