scum.

[bombfrog]

So 137,000 people selling their individual Glastonbury tickets at double or triple face value wouldn't be touting in your book. Sorry for being logical, I understand how you think that is purely your domain. Even though you don't seem to comprehend the meaning of the word touting.

[scaryclaireyfairy]

as has been said several times already in this thread, the sellers on ebay this year are the thin end of the wedge.

i fully understand that some people are landed with tickets that they don't want to/can't use and wish to re-sell. but there is NO EXCUSE for making a profit on them. none. i'm appalled anyone can defend people doing this.

[jameshunt]

Yes it would, I don't want it to become V.

But I would point out (for about the third time) that the reason I joined this conversation was because people were calling 1 person, selling 1 ticket scum.

I am not advocating allowing people to buy hundreds of tickets, artificially create demand and force up the price. I never have.

[jameshunt]

Again with the sensationalism. That's never going to happen.

[ukslim]

But I would point out (for about the third time) that the reason I joined this conversation was because people were calling 1 person, selling 1 ticket scum.

Edited June 10, 2010 by ukslim

[farewellandgoodnight]

Because let's face it, a bright tout would:

a. create a load of registrations using photos harvested off the Internet,

b. spend all release day buying as many tickets as you can manage, using a number of delivery addresses and credit cards

c. wait until the tickets got delivered

d. put them on eBay, one at a time, with a low starting price and a high reserve, with a bullshit story about how the fictional character in the photograph can't go.

Edited June 10, 2010 by farewellandgoodnight

[Nedson]

My names Nedson. I am Spineless and I am an idiot.

I also have a number of Glastonbury tickets available to the highest bidder

[bombfrog]

But that is exactly what selling Glastonbury tickets at inflated prices does encourage. Are you not familiar with free market mechanisms? Of the impact on prices of restricted supply?

[jameshunt]

My names Nedson. I am Spineless and I am an idiot.

[Insomaniac]

That's just the kind of sensationalist nonsense I've come to expect from this forum.

Tomska isn't supporting touts (plural). We're talking about 1 person selling 1 ticket which presumably they bought because they wanted to go originally (we certainly have no proof otherwise). If you can't make the distinction then you're an idiot.

[Langdale Wolf]

In YOUR opinion, which in MY humble opinion makes you a bit of a prick.

You have no idea what her motives are. If I fell ill and couldn't go I'd sell my ticket too and I'd sell it to whoever wanted it and for whatever they were prepared to pay for it. I see nothing immoral in that, you obviously do but that's just YOUR opinion.

I am an avid fan of the festival and I don't think it's exploitation. Please don't try to speak for all of us.

[jameshunt]

Yes, I'm perfectly familiar with how markets work, but (again) that would only happen on a large scale.

I just don't subscribe to this view that if you let a few people selling a single ticket because they no longer need it that it's going to be easy for touts to suddenly start selling hundreds of them again. That's all a bit Daily Mail "will somebody please think of the children" for me.

Edited June 10, 2010 by jameshunt

[ukslim]

They could do yes but the effort and time involved in doing such a thing when they know that people may not even be willling to buy the tickets would put any sane person off in my opinion.

Think about how many auctions we've had flagged up on here in the past month or so. It's probably only in double figures and they're being cancelled and taken down all the time.

The incentive just isn't there for a large scale operation to do it. Imagine having a couple of hundred tickets each requiring somebody who looked fairly similar to the picture who's willing to risk it and was unlucky enough to miss out in the initial sale and two further resales?

[Alan L]

f**k me you've really bought into the Eavis.

Look at the graph above. In a decade where the general price level has remained near steady the price of a Glastonbury ticket has gone up 100%..

Is the line-up better now than in the 90s?

[Tomska]

Once again espcecially for you Tomska as you genuinely do seem to be a little bit special.

[jameshunt]

...

Put it this way - I could have bought a ticket to sell for a profit in this way. I didn't, but not because I didn't think it would work.

[ukslim]

I just find the shrill hysteria on this thread completely OTT. Nazis are scum. Paedophiles are scum. Man United are scum (only joking). You lot are just hysterical. In both senses of the word.

[Nedson]

Bravo my friend. You're past the denial stage now!

[bombfrog]

Well thanks for the insult - very 'Glastonbury-esque' of you. Shame that we can't have differing opinions without you slinging insults at me.

[jameshunt]

I'm still delusional though

[Nedson]

Edited for accuracy.

[jameshunt]

The talent shines through once more.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Well thanks for the insult - very 'Glastonbury-esque' of you. Shame that we can't have differing opinions without you slinging insults at me.

Why didn't this person offer her ticket for a buy-it-now price of face value? Do you not see our point there?

Edited June 10, 2010 by Rufus Gwertigan

[Langdale Wolf]

And calling people scum because they're selling a ticket is 'Glastonbury-esque'?

[oldie]

1. At significantly higher than face value

2. Quite likely to be lying

Because let's face it, a bright tout would:

a. create a load of registrations using photos harvested off the Internet,

b. spend all release day buying as many tickets as you can manage, using a number of delivery addresses and credit cards

c. wait until the tickets got delivered

d. put them on eBay, one at a time, with a low starting price and a high reserve, with a bullshit story about how the fictional character in the photograph can't go.