scum.

[josephg]

No doubt I did not, but you still have failed to explain your "bloody peculiar grasp of capitalism" claim.

[jameshunt]

someone selling a ticket to an event on ebay 'cause they could no longer attend said event is not endemic of an economic system which places particular emphasis on privately owned production means.

you are ridiculous

'have fun folks'

[jameshunt]

How do most things you do in life differ from the capitalist system?

*shit english*

[josephg]

You missed out the for the highest price they could get. The profit motive. No doubt that omission was deliberate. You also took at face value (pun intended) their claim that they could no longer attend, but that's neither here nor there in this particular discussion. But your definition of capitalism is an oddly restrictive one to start off with.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

You live and learn.

[jameshunt]

I think you may be wrong. Most of GFL's profits are paid to charities, but what about the money Festival Republic receive?? Does Melvin not get around £120k for his role??

[glasto'newbie']

Don't worry about the original English, it went quite well with the shit point you were trying to make.

I walk my dog.

I love my kids.

If I sell or buy something I try to do both at a fair price and resist making or giving excessive profits.

I buy Fair Trade products whenever possible.

I donate to charity a significant part of my net worth each year.

.....BOLD... note: living in a capitalist society it is not possible to be totally isolated from the wheels of capitalism. I never claimed I was. .....BOLD....

What an odd question.

[jameshunt]

Exactly, so why has this small point of people selling tickets for more then their face value riled you so much? Worse things to get annoyed about.

But fair play for your fair trade and charity connections. Peace x

[llcoolphil]

Ive only read rst and last pages of this thread but it would appear that jameshunt is pretty much bang on the money - I salute you sir

[LondonTom]

Wow theres people who go to gigs and festivals who actually defend touts? WTH?! Most points have already been said, but if you like touting I am sure you can find an event where only the richest go as that is what your basically saying Glastonbury should do by touting, why not cut the middle men and just have glastonbury acept the largest bids on tickets, maybe a few would get lucky and get it at a price they could afford? I am sure the crowd would be brilliant!

[StoneCircle]

Ive only read rst and last pages of this thread but it would appear that jameshunt is pretty much bang on the money - I salute you sir

[Yorkshire Chomper]

agree with jameshunt on all of this

[PabloCoke]

Don't worry about the original English, it went quite well with the shit point you were trying to make.

I walk my dog.

I love my kids.

If I sell or buy something I try to do both at a fair price and resist making or giving excessive profits.

I buy Fair Trade products whenever possible.

I donate to charity a significant part of my net worth each year.

note: living in a capitalist society it is not possible to be totally isolated from the wheels of capitalism. I never claimed I was.

What an odd question.

[ralph250]

So the simple thing is this:

Buy-it-now face value: Not touting

Auction starting from face value: Touting.

She did the latter, so is a tout.

Touts are scum. Therefore she's scum.

[gizmoman]

Ive only read rst and last pages of this thread but it would appear that jameshunt is pretty much bang on the money - I salute you sir

[StoneCircle]

Ah its so quiet, looks like jameshunt has put the children to bed at last

[robalotalob]

Now THIS is what I call scum.....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GLASTONBURY-FESTIVAL...=item335dc95ea4

[JodiB]

So I wrote to ebay asking what is their policy concerning the sale of Glastonbury tickets. This is the reply I got:

My name is Johnny and I'll be happy to resolve your concern about

Glastonbury festival tickets listing.

Please note that we prohibit all tickets are not permited to be resold

and is not in line with ticket issuing authority. You did the right

thing by reporting this to us, unfortunately you have not provided me

with item numbers to reference these listings. Please reply to this

email including the item number in question. If you are unable to locate

the item number, please write back with the following information to

assist us search our records:

1. The seller's ID

2. A description of the item

3. Any other information you feel is relevant.

OR

You can do this by clicking the 'Report item' link at the bottom of the

item page.

I hope this information helps you decide how to proceed in this

situation. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Kind regards,

Johnny Bower

eBay Trust & Safety

I wrote back saying what bollocks that you prohibit the sale of tickets as at present there are at least 34 on sale on Ebay right now.

I also said why should it be up to me to report these listings to you when they are not hard to find.

Maybe just maybe the Glastonbury ticket listings will dissappear shortly.

Don't hold your breath.

____________________

Edited June 11, 2010 by JodiB

[russycarps]

Fair play to jameshunt here. Completely agree with all his points. He is also showing incredible resilience and tolerance to maintain this discussion with people who are clearly, with respect, total thickos.

A stern salute in your direction, jameshunt.

[strudders]

Fair play to jameshunt here. Completely agree with all his points. He is also showing incredible resilience and tolerance to maintain this discussion with people who are clearly, with respect, total thickos.

A stern salute in your direction, jameshunt.

[josephg]

Fair play to jameshunt here. Completely agree with all his points. He is also showing incredible resilience and tolerance to maintain this discussion with people who are clearly, with respect, total thickos.

A stern salute in your direction, jameshunt.

[strudders]

I think the point that some of the 'total thickos', as you eloquently deemed them, have been making is that although touting is obviously wrong and detrimental to both the ethos and clientele that Glastonbury will attract in the future, the use of hyperbole is making the original (morally right) outrage look bloody deranged.

[oldie]

So, hypothetically, if someone was to spend, say, half an hour of their time reporting to ebay the tickets for glasto that weren't being sold at near face value, would they be saint or sinner?

I await my judgement.

Hypothetically of course.

[Insomaniac]

Yes well played James. Good on you for keeping up the fight against touts. I gave it a go for a while but gave up as it really did seem pointless trying to convince fellow festival goers that discouraging touts was in their own interest.

[Insomaniac]

So, hypothetically, if someone was to spend, say, half an hour of their time reporting to ebay the tickets for glasto that weren't being sold at near face value, would they be saint or sinner?

I await my judgement.

Hypothetically of course.