Muse

[guyfawkes]

While some of the statements in here are a little silly its no more nauseating than people who seem to hate every single popular band around and instead insist on circle jerking over less popular bands with their high horse opinions on "real music" only to end up slagging that band off if they ever become more popular. Kings of Leon are a great example of this.

[russycarps]

They are both up there, they are one of the best live bands in the world, matt is up there(actually most proper muse fans prefer his piano playing and agree he is better pianist than guitarist), it happens with every band though, I don't think its just a problem with Muse, for instance I am sure there are radiohead fans who go around saying the exact same thing. People don't mean harm for by it, but for them they are the best and thats fine because you could never actually say someone is the best as a matter of fact. Your tosh post before though really isn't needed about them being for people who don't like music.

[russycarps]

Kings of Leon are a great example of this.

[irons]

What exactly makes their liveshow "up there" though? Why are Muse any better live than a multitude of other "indie" type guitar bands? In saying such things you just show how little live music you must have seen.

Same goes with calling Matt Bellamy the best guitarist. All you are doing is demonstrating how little music you have listened to.

Enjoy the band, but just lay off the ridicluously over the top praise. Or, accept people will shoot you down and laugh at you.

[sifi]

See the thread title for further details.

[Tugger2k]

They are both up there, they are one of the best live bands in the world, matt is up there(actually most proper muse fans prefer his piano playing and agree he is better pianist than guitarist), it happens with every band though, I don't think its just a problem with Muse, for instance I am sure there are radiohead fans who go around saying the exact same thing. People don't mean harm for by it, but for them they are the best and thats fine because you could never actually say someone is the best as a matter of fact. Your tosh post before though really isn't needed about them being for people who don't like music.

[russycarps]

Have you ever seen them?

[Ed209]

Possibly, just wait and see MB thou. I was amazed.

[Mardy]

'musicianship', 'technically gifted', 'great players' etc etc

Gawd help us.

[BlackHole2006]

'musicianship', 'technically gifted', 'great players' etc etc

Gawd help us.

[LondonTom]

What exactly makes their liveshow "up there" though? Why are Muse any better live than a multitude of other "indie" type guitar bands? In saying such things you just show how little live music you must have seen.

Same goes with calling Matt Bellamy the best guitarist. All you are doing is demonstrating how little music you have listened to.

Enjoy the band, but just lay off the ridicluously over the top praise. Or, accept people will shoot you down and laugh at you.

[russycarps]

I would say the amount of people who go enjoy it? The lights and lasers etc , not everyone's cup of tea but some people like that, you can see they put alot of effort into the shows compared to some indie type guitar bands. The two times I have seen muse, i have thoroughly enjoyed myself, not stooped jumping for the entirety of the show and the people around me seemed to be the same. The same can be said for many bands They put on one of hell of a show, that people enjoy I think that makes them up there with the best live performers and alot of people who have seen some great performances agree. I also them being asked to headline Glasto's 40th shows a lot of faith in the performance.

Anyway what did you expect? This is a thread about Muse, obviously fans are going come here and post exaggerated comments about the band, I am sure most people here are guilty of doing it at some point.

[In transit]

I'm normally a huge Muse fan and Russycarps is normally a bit of an idiot (the Walkmen aside) but he does have a point here - there is a lot of hyperbole about the band and throwing around stuff like best guitarist in the world is just plain bonkers (Vini Reilly hasn't had a mention so far which is also bonkers).

Muse are a very good band, who are excellent live, who have a suped-up show that needs to be careful it doesn't eat itself and become Spinal Tap (as they have shown signs of doing recently imo).

[russycarps]

I'm normally a huge Muse fan and Russycarps is normally a bit of an idiot (the Walkmen aside) but he does have a point here

[Zacko]

If only Stevie Ray Vaughan was still around...

Talking of guitarists, I saw a video of John Mayer playing with some blues musicians and he held his own very well - considering I thought he was a pop singer whose fans were 14 year old girls it surprised me. This has nothing to do with Muse or who the best living guitarist is but I found it interesting...

[In transit]

*sniff*

thats the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me on here!

[glasto10]

Joe Satriani. Now that's a f**king guitarist. f**k your Jimmy pages. Watch this guy on youtube and you will be mesmerised by his guitaring.

I think Matt Bellamy is a gifted musician, not the best guitarist around. The fact he can play piano well and guitar, aswell as writing classical pieces of music shows he is talented.

I would say Jonny Greenwood from Radiohead is at this current time one of the best creative guitarist out there. It's phenomenal what he can do and come up with. Anyone heard '15 step' by Radiohead?? It's played on the 5 beat for crying out loud. That's ridiculous. It also works!

And russycarps. If you don't agree slightly with that then you really don't know anything about music........Oh yeh and Arcade fire are shit....that's my opinion.....oh yeh and i hate Nick Caves music....that's my opinion. I'm going to leave it that as I don't need to drag on about how much i hate them like you seem to do with Muse.

That's my case closed. Goodnight

[LittlemissC]

Joe Satriani. Now that's a f**king guitarist. f**k your Jimmy pages. Watch this guy on youtube and you will be mesmerised by his guitaring.

I think Matt Bellamy is a gifted musician, not the best guitarist around. The fact he can play piano well and guitar, aswell as writing classical pieces of music shows he is talented.

I would say Jonny Greenwood from Radiohead is at this current time one of the best creative guitarist out there. It's phenomenal what he can do and come up with. Anyone heard '15 step' by Radiohead?? It's played on the 5 beat for crying out loud. That's ridiculous. It also works!

And russycarps. If you don't agree slightly with that then you really don't know anything about music........Oh yeh and Arcade fire are shit....that's my opinion.....oh yeh and i hate Nick Caves music....that's my opinion. I'm going to leave it that as I don't need to drag on about how much i hate them like you seem to do with Muse.

That's my case closed. Goodnight

[irons]

Yes. Three times. Glastonbury 2004 (which I enjoyed). Isle of Wight 2007 (or whenever it was) which was ok and Wembley 2008 (or whenever it was) on a free ticket. Didnt enjoy this one much.

[denwyn]

No worries.

To be honest I was surprised myself that Chuck still tours.

JP dates haven't been announced as far I know but he has stated he plans to tour this year.

[geztival_09]

There is nothing original about their live show though is there. Nothing to set it apart to justify "BEST LIVE ACT EVER!" The lazers have been done a many times before (and a many times better). At wembley they released a few balloons into the crowd. Guess what? this has been done many times before and many times better.

He's a good, talented musician. But the best in the world? It's absolutely laughable.

It's terrific you enjoyed the shows. Hooray for you. I'm happy for you that they are playing glastonbury. But I will continue to pour scorn on people who perpetuate the myth that they are anything other than "ok". Just because they put on more of a show than someone like oasis or the killers or whoever else you have seen doesnt really make them the best in the world.

My main criticism of muse and their live show is that it is utterly devoid of any emotion whatsoever. Just a whopper on stage playing fiddly guitar solos wailing and screaming out lyrics that are a load of utter tosh.

[irons]

I'm amazed that a musical Nazi such as yourself could enjoy Glastonbury.

If you like to criticise, I recommend Cheryl Cole. The shite she's released could rival the shite you've posted.

[hoils]

[2/Z]

I'm amazed that a musical Nazi such as yourself could enjoy Glastonbury.

If you like to criticise, I recommend Cheryl Cole. The shite she's released could rival the shite you've posted.

[irons]

o dear.... much as i was enjoying reading this thread, and i am a muse fan (among many other bands) you seem to have awarded this thread to russy :-/

god damn godwins law!