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I dunno, I think Dizzee is big enough, got a decent back catalogue, nice bit of variety. Far better than a has been bunch of 40 something jokes who haven't grown up and should be doing the Butlins nostalgia weekends.(Prodigy, I'm looking at you)

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I usually find that a lot of the Other Stage headliners, with a few exceptions, are bands that are capable of headlining Main Stages at other fests, and in the case of acts like Franz Ferdinand, The Prodigy, Massive Attack, Bjork, Iggy Pop and The Chemical Brothers, have had experience prior. And then you get acts like Bloc Party, Razorlight, Groove Armarda and Basement Jaxx who have second headlined their share of fests before.

I'm not denying that he's got pretty big now but I'm not sure if he's big enough to headline the Other Stage. Glasvegas and Pendulum are also two of the biggest acts of the last year but they didn't headline.

The difference with Glasvegas and Pendulum is that they've been around (in the public eye, anyway) for a far shorter time, and neither are as big as Dizzee. I'd say that Dizzee's status isn't so far different to Franz Ferdinand's.

And his star is still rising too - so by next year it won't look as out of place as it perhaps looks now.

Dizzee isn't my thing, but I can see him as headlining that stage next year, and I don't think it's out of place.

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i reckon the next 6-7 months are crucial for Dizzee, he's either going to break through and become a proper full on massive star or he's going to blow it and fade away without trace. In 2 years time, he'll either be headlining the pyramid or only get into Glastonbury by applying to do litter picking. Nothing inbetween. My money's on the first, as it goes.

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i reckon the next 6-7 months are crucial for Dizzee, he's either going to break through and become a proper full on massive star or he's going to blow it and fade away without trace. In 2 years time, he'll either be headlining the pyramid or only get into Glastonbury by applying to do litter picking. Nothing inbetween. My money's on the first, as it goes.

I pretty much agree with that - tho unlike you I'm unsure which way he'll go. But whichever it is, he's safe enough around the position he is now for another year or so I reckon.

The only reason I have some doubts isn't based on him as a performer - he's got loads more charisma than plenty of other acts, which more than makes up for what's often gash music behind his sometimes dodgy lyrics.

My doubts come from whether Britain can take him to their hearts. As yet there's no UK mega star 'rapper', because as a country I don't reckon it's a style of music we're (as a generalisation) comfortable with as yet. He could fade away at around the same speed as The Streets.

But anyway, all that aside, when Muse were announced as a Pyramid headliner a few years back now there were plenty of posts here right up til the festival saying it was wrong for them to headline - after the set they were words never heard again. I reckon, looking at that situation now, not too many people would think they'd have been thought of as not good enough to be a headliner. I don't see Dizzee as too much different (tho for headlining the other stage) - some people can't see that he's at the point in his career where it's right he's given the chance.

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I pretty much agree with that - tho unlike you I'm unsure which way he'll go. But whichever it is, he's safe enough around the position he is now for another year or so I reckon.

The only reason I have some doubts isn't based on him as a performer - he's got loads more charisma than plenty of other acts, which more than makes up for what's often gash music behind his sometimes dodgy lyrics.

My doubts come from whether Britain can take him to their hearts. As yet there's no UK mega star 'rapper', because as a country I don't reckon it's a style of music we're (as a generalisation) comfortable with as yet. He could fade away at around the same speed as The Streets.

But anyway, all that aside, when Muse were announced as a Pyramid headliner a few years back now there were plenty of posts here right up til the festival saying it was wrong for them to headline - after the set they were words never heard again. I reckon, looking at that situation now, not too many people would think they'd have been thought of as not good enough to be a headliner. I don't see Dizzee as too much different (tho for headlining the other stage) - some people can't see that he's at the point in his career where it's right he's given the chance.

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I'd go with that, pretty much, I think a lot of whether he'll become proper massive depends on how chameleon-like he is in his approach, stuff like 'dance wiv me' and 'bonkers' are world away from 'boy in da corner', and I suspect he's going to continue down that road, becoming more mainstream. It's interesting, cos a lot of bands start out conventionally and then become more experimental as they get more successful and have the freedom do do so, whereas he's taken the opposite approach, becoming far more radio friendly as he's gone on.
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I think he could definitely do it, I've spoken to a few people and they all agree that he could headline the Other Stage. His back catalogue is large enough and he's got the charisma to pull it off.

Flex

Bonkers

Sirens

Dance wiv Me

Just a Rascal

Holiday

Thats Not My Name (The Ting Tings cover)

Fix Up Look Sharp

Are all pretty much known by the majority of people and while obviously having some well known songs doesn't guarantee a headline slot at festivals, it goes a long way. If he keeps getting number ones he can only get bigger.

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So they were there then? The Cure? They won an award. :D

Was Robert Plant at those awards?

Edit - Just did some research. Radiohead were there that night. As were Coldplay.

It

s Radioad Neil i isnt ? EaEavisouldnd have t to wait until an award show to book Coldpy, he hahas Tit Martin on speed dial.

So there you go everyone, Radiohe to headldline Glasto 10.

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As has been mentioned the problem with Dylan is where to put him on the bill. He may have to remain one of the eternal what ifs'. But if it was me doing the booking I'd have him on as a surprise act, at the Park say. That's the kind of adventurous booking I think GLASTOFOURO needs - 180k bamboozled heads full of wagging tongues and a few thou lucky punters with (hopefully) a Bob memory to cherish.

I for one am trying to keep my wild hopes in check for next year but as ever with regard to Glastonbury I'll go with Guy Garveys 2008 assessment of Michael and Emily's abilities with regard to organising a good do!

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I'd go with that, pretty much, I think a lot of whether he'll become proper massive depends on how chameleon-like he is in his approach, stuff like 'dance wiv me' and 'bonkers' are world away from 'boy in da corner', and I suspect he's going to continue down that road, becoming more mainstream. It's interesting, cos a lot of bands start out conventionally and then become more experimental as they get more successful and have the freedom do do so, whereas he's taken the opposite approach, becoming far more radio friendly as he's gone on.
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I've no idea if the act he says he'd booked was there or not. However, I don't believe that he 'booked' the act with the act but with their representative. Most of the time it's a waste of time speaking to any act directly, as they don't have a clue what they have lined up as such things are handled for them by their manager(s).

So guess all you like over acts that were there, the chances are you might be leading yourself up the garden path.

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I am quite pally with The Cribs (although do not see much of em now ) , you are right Neil about

artists. A few years ago chatting to their drummer Ross I know more about what they were doing

festival wise then he did. I remember he said this to me

"Our manager has sorted out us to play a gigl in Leeds with the Kaiser Chiefs , know much about it ? ! "

It was the 02 Wireless Festival at Harweood House , but got the impression he had been told nothing about it by his manager.

:lol:

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