Will Pete be in prison

[seany891]

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?P...p;in_page_id=34

[ladyholiday]

the question is if he gets to the festival will he make it to the stage youve more chance of him playing the bimble inn

all joking aside he was fantastic at the park last year

[FunkyDenz]

How is serving a couple of years inside going to clean Pete® up?

It's easier to get Class A's inside than outside, and if I were banged up for 2 years I'd be getting off my tits on smack and crack just to escape the boredom.

[jsn]

"Chairman of the bench Christopher Weaver explained that those conditions were to live at his home address in Wiltshire and to obey a curfew order from 7pm to 7am. But when gigging, the conditions will not apply, Mr Weaver told him.

.........

He is forbidden from using illegal susbstances while on bail and must attend Narcotics Anonymous meetings at least once a week.

Mr Weaver added: "We've checked and your schedule permits that." "

... for trial on Aug 11th.... Looks likely therefore his "schedule" will still include Glastonbury.....

[HandFedFred]

"Chairman of the bench Christopher Weaver explained that those conditions were to live at his home address in Wiltshire and to obey a curfew order from 7pm to 7am. But when gigging, the conditions will not apply, Mr Weaver told him.

.........

He is forbidden from using illegal susbstances while on bail and must attend Narcotics Anonymous meetings at least once a week.

Mr Weaver added: "We've checked and your schedule permits that." "

... for trial on Aug 11th.... Looks likely therefore his "schedule" will still include Glastonbury.....

[FunkyDenz]

Can The Other Stage host one of the narcotics anonymous meetings? Two birds, one stone(r )

[HandFedFred]

Can The Other Stage host one of the narcotics anonymous meetings? Two birds, one stone(r )

[titch juicy]

really, it is just that simple.

A junkie only stops being a junkie when they want to stop being a junkie. You can put them thru rehab a thousand times, but it'll be to no effect unless they want to stop. And while rehab is helpful with helping people stop that want to stop, it doesn't make a huge amount of difference - the change has to be within the person first, and if it is then it's there rehab or no rehab.

[jsn]

...just re-read that....

".........He is forbidden from using illegal susbstances while on bail.... "

[Pilgrim S]

Drunk driving, there really is no excuse. I've got no sympathy at all. Sure he might be a nice bloke. So was Luke McCormick the Plymouth Argyle goal keeper, but he made a mistake, and was correctly punnished. Pete hasn't killed anyone, but it's still a totally irresponsible thing to do. I don't feel sorry for him becasuse he's an addict. What he does to his own body I couldn't care less about, but when he's endangering other peoples lives, then I've got an issue.

Sad, because although I'm not a fan, I found him quite likeable, but he's crossed the line this time. I hope in time he sorts himself out.

[dvb]

I wonder how many people on here have drunk driven before.

and i wonder how many have taken drugs. i mean alcohol is a drug,legal yes,but still its a drug,im sure people have turned into much worse things being addicted to legal alcohol than illegal drug users doing less harm to others compared to alcoholics. When did you last hear about some heroin user going and beating someone to death, or hitting thier wife?.

What harm is Peter Doherty doing to anyone else?, he might upset his family and fans but they would only be conserned about him, hes not physically hurting anyone by getin off his face,hes just damaging himself,yet hes somehow the devil scum of the earth.

Ideally he should grow up, get off this stupid shit,be considerate of his fans and family and friends,and certantly not ever possibly endanger anyone from drunk driving.

[Billy09]

I wonder how many people on here have drunk driven before.

and i wonder how many have taken drugs. i mean alcohol is a drug,legal yes,but still its a drug,im sure people have turned into much worse things being addicted to legal alcohol than illegal drug users doing less harm to others compared to alcoholics. When did you last hear about some heroin user going and beating someone to death, or hitting thier wife?.

What harm is Peter Doherty doing to anyone else?, he might upset his family and fans but they would only be conserned about him, hes not physically hurting anyone by getin off his face,hes just damaging himself,yet hes somehow the devil scum of the earth.

Ideally he should grow up, get off this stupid shit,be considerate of his fans and family and friends,and certantly not ever possibly endanger anyone from drunk driving.

[abu hamster]

I wonder how many people on here have drunk driven before.

and i wonder how many have taken drugs. i mean alcohol is a drug,legal yes,but still its a drug,im sure people have turned into much worse things being addicted to legal alcohol than illegal drug users doing less harm to others compared to alcoholics. When did you last hear about some heroin user going and beating someone to death, or hitting thier wife?.

What harm is Peter Doherty doing to anyone else?, he might upset his family and fans but they would only be conserned about him, hes not physically hurting anyone by getin off his face,hes just damaging himself,yet hes somehow the devil scum of the earth.

Ideally he should grow up, get off this stupid shit,be considerate of his fans and family and friends,and certantly not ever possibly endanger anyone from drunk driving.

[bombfrog]

I wonder how many people on here have drunk driven before.

[Mardy]

I agree that DD is f**king irresponsible, but you reckon they're going to breathalyse all the drivers leaving glastonbury on Monday morning. wonder how many results they'd get...

[Mardy]

heroin addicts, as opposed to crack, coke or meth ampetemine addicts, are generally less violent, much less violent. it's nearly always crimes against property.

again, for a balanced, grown up view on the problem

http://www.tdpf.org.uk/

[smiley33]

My brother once told me that he did crack and smack with Pete when Pete was in Wolverhampton doing a gig somewhere years ago - he said he was a pussy as he only did a bit and was all over the shop - I wasn't amused at his story but that was my brother and his tales - pretty normal. I say was, cos Alex died 6 months ago from a brain haemmorhage after getting a blood clot last year in his leg from injecting so much. This isn't a sob story and it's probably doing me good to do this, but our family life was (and still is in a way) ruled by him and what he did. We tried and did everything we could to get him off it - he was 40 when he died and he'd been on it since he was in his late teens - he had imlants, he went to rehab, he went to prison (where it was easier to get the stuff) but we could still not get him off it - it's not a case of just 'giving it up' - in cases like this, it gets hold of you and ruins your life. full stop. I am totally jealous of people who manage to get off it as I would have liked Alex to do that. I, at times, called my brother a waster and told him to get a life. A month before he died, I wished that he would die to give us all a bit of peace - that will haunt me for the rest of my life as I'd fallen out with him 2 months before he died. He told me stories of when he went to Glastonbury in the early 90's and this will be a different Glasto for me this year because of what has happened. I really want to go and see the Script, but that one song, 'lying in bed but i'm barely breathing' reminds me of him as it was playing in the car when i left the hospital when he was on his life support machine - so if you see a 6 foot girl in floods, don't worry - it won't last long, just probably that the moment got to me!! I don't want to bring anyone down with this but it's really not as easy as you all think it is.

thanks

x

[Mardy]

I'm sorry for your loss, stay strong, and if you want to have a good cry, have a bloody good cry, nothing wrong with that.

[grumpyhack]

I work with, among others, a group of recovering addicts - mainly heroin but some alcoholics. I took one of the guys to two festivals last summer (not Glasto). He moved from heroin onto methadone but was on reducing doses and he even managed to work as a volunteer steward.

He's not coming this year as he's now in a residential rehab unit, partly as a result of the confidence he gained in himself keeping his head together as a steward and his determination to become completely clean.

I've known so many of people who've had their lives wrecked by heroin. It's inexcusible to tempt anyone down that road.

P.S. Glasto is a great place to have a good cry. Someone will always comfort you. I wept buckets last year when Joan Baez sang 'There But For Fortune' just because it was so moving and powerful. A big guy standing next to me put his arm round my shoulders and asked: 'Are you alright mate?' I replied I was OK, it was simply such a beautiful song.

Edited June 12, 2009 by grumpyhack

[Alcatraz]

FFS!

It's not the fact that he's taken drugs. It's that he's got behind the wheel of a machine that has killed at least two people I know in the last year. I don't even drive when I've taken my hayfever tablets!

[grumpyhack]

FFS!

It's not the fact that he's taken drugs. It's that he's got behind the wheel of a machine that has killed at least two people I know in the last year. I don't even drive when I've taken my hayfever tablets!

Edited June 12, 2009 by grumpyhack

[Alcatraz]

Yes but I was responding to Smiley and her comment about getting people into heavyweight drugs.

[pedmills]

Right so when I suggest prison for a guy who obviously won't get off drugs himself, you all react as if I'm mad. Yet none of you have another to contribute as any kind of punishment or way of helping him, other than "he needs to want to get off them".

I know realistically a couple years in prison is never gonna happen, and I'm not saying that in the real world thats maybe the best option, but tbh I reckon a lengthy time where getting drugs are impossible would be the only way to sort him out. If drugs are just as easy to get in prison, then obviously this is purely a hypothetical solution.

What is the real solution then? There seems to be this whole thing with heroin that there's nothing you can do about it. Once a junkie, always a junkie. It can't be like that surely?

Edited June 12, 2009 by pedmills

[Billy09]

Right so when I suggest prison for a guy who obviously won't get off drugs himself, you all react as if I'm mad. Yet none of you have another to contribute as any kind of punishment or way of helping him, other than "he needs to want to get off them".

I know realistically a couple years in prison is never gonna happen, and I'm not saying that in the real world thats maybe the best option, but tbh I reckon a lengthy time where getting drugs are impossible would be the only way to sort him out. If drugs are just easy to get in prison, then obviously this is purely a hypothetical solution.

What is the real solution then? There seems to be this whole thing with heroin that there's nothing you can do about it. Once a junkie, always a junkie. It can't be like that surely?

Edited June 12, 2009 by dr_billy

[abu hamster]

I agree that DD is f**king irresponsible, but you reckon they're going to breathalyse all the drivers leaving glastonbury on Monday morning. wonder how many results they'd get...

Edited June 12, 2009 by abu hamster