Download 2026

[DomDom1984]

On this evidence, I fully support a Tik Tok influenced set.

 

I remember leaving the crowd for Deftones in 2016 to go see Skindred and it was a massive pain in the arse. Especially in that mud.

 

 

[Spiral_Low]

1 hour ago, Andre91 said:

If we’re going on TikTok, Sex Tape needs to be chucked in there too. 

Just had a look at their setlists on this tour and looks like they've dropped Cherry Waves for that song haha

[northernangel]

2 hours ago, Andre91 said:

I just said about 4 posts above that Deftones were crap the only time I’ve seen them. Isn’t that the point you’re making, which I’ve agreed with? Not every band can be Biffy Clyro and play 10/10 sets every time 🙃

 

You’d like to think that a band making their first headline appearance after 30 years would pull out all the stops to ensure it was special. Much like KoRn this year. It’s Download. Of course tens of thousands of people there will want to see Deftones, like they have every time they’ve played. But you don’t like them, do you, so they will obviously play to an empty field. That irony again, eh…

 

Right, so now we're saying that a band that have been called awful live a combination of the las 3 times multiple people have seen them at Download and Reading can't always be as good live as other bands all the time?, once would help though right! Biffy Clyro have been 6/10 at best both times I've seen them play Download and that's as a fan but two worst two times comfortable. Added to the biggest crowd walks outs and the worst booked Downloading closing headliner in recent times tells you how the majority felt about that. Yes you don't agree and yes that's fine but they would be a terrible option to book again and I say that even not minding their newer song. I saw one person both days I was at Download wearing a Biffy Clyro shirt compared to however band others bands on tshirts.

 

So you mean the last times they played they just didn't care then and sang and performed badly for the sake of it?, as well as the other shows at the likes of Reading that were poor lmao. That's incredible! Who said they would play to an empty field?, oh wait, you putting words into people's mouths again and again and again and again! what's new though! There is no irony, I've never said they didn't have enough songs for 90 minutes or that they wouldn't get a crowd, but I'm not dumb enough to think that they might suddenly turn up once which you are clearly and others also don't see the difference that playing later will make. I've said I don't think they would headline which is a big difference and me thinking they are awful apart from Schools Out has nothing to do with others that said they didn't think they would get picked for headline due to their performances and one saying they don't think they were big enough, that's just different views and opinions from different people. I had not seen your other post. It's your own bias and like for the band driving this and nothing else. But you continue ignoring other people and put it down to just my view because that suits your narrative and thought process.

[TWY2911]

Not disputing the fact that Deftones aren't great live but I don't think Download would take that into account when deciding whether to book them to headline all that matters is whether they'd sell tickets 

[Andre91]

43 minutes ago, northernangel said:

 

Right, so now we're saying that a band that have been called awful live a combination of the las 3 times multiple people have seen them at Download and Reading can't always be as good live as other bands all the time?, once would help though right! Biffy Clyro have been 6/10 at best both times I've seen them play Download and that's as a fan but two worst two times comfortable. Added to the biggest crowd walks outs and the worst booked Downloading closing headliner in recent times tells you how the majority felt about that. Yes you don't agree and yes that's fine but they would be a terrible option to book again and I say that even not minding their newer song. I saw one person both days I was at Download wearing a Biffy Clyro shirt compared to however band others bands on tshirts.

 

So you mean the last times they played they just didn't care then and sang and performed badly for the sake of it?, as well as the other shows at the likes of Reading that were poor lmao. That's incredible! Who said they would play to an empty field?, oh wait, you putting words into people's mouths again and again and again and again! what's new though! There is no irony, I've never said they didn't have enough songs for 90 minutes or that they wouldn't get a crowd, but I'm not dumb enough to think that they might suddenly turn up once which you are clearly and others also don't see the difference that playing later will make. I've said I don't think they would headline which is a big difference and me thinking they are awful apart from Schools Out has nothing to do with others that said they didn't think they would get picked for headline due to their performances and one saying they don't think they were big enough, that's just different views and opinions from different people. I had not seen your other post. It's your own bias and like for the band driving this and nothing else. But you continue ignoring other people and put it down to just my view because that suits your narrative and thought process.

Give it a rest, man. It’s like deciphering the ramblings of a lunatic. I could say that the sky is blue and you would somehow disagree with it. You’re boring and incoherent. Go for a nap or something. 

[BigPancake]

The wording Jenny uses in the Uprawr podcast is "We hope that there will be new headliners once they're actually locked in" which is not specifically implying all of them will be new. It's vague enough that we could be getting a returning headliner.

There have been a couple of instances of 4 and 6 night camping and mentions of arena lounge access from Thursday spotted in bits of information on Ticketmaster. It looks like it could have been planned to be 4 days at one point, maybe with the addition of Tuesday night camping to alleviate the 2023 traffic issues. Obviously doesn't seem to be the case anymore though.

[Andre91]

It’s not going to be 4 days of music. 

[BigPancake]

44 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

It’s not going to be 4 days of music. 

Not sure if you think I disagree with this statement, but I don't. Just pointing out that there is evidence indicating that 4 days was the plan at one point. Would be interesting to know if it actually was and, if so, what caused it to fall through.

[TWY2911]

7 minutes ago, BigPancake said:

Not sure if you think I disagree with this statement, but I don't. Just pointing out that there is evidence indicating that 4 days was the plan at one point. Would be interesting to know if it actually was and, if so, what caused it to fall through.

 

Didn't they get in a bit trouble last time they did it? Maybe it has something to do with that 

[Andre91]

4 minutes ago, TWY2911 said:

 

Didn't they get in a bit trouble last time they did it? Maybe it has something to do with that 

They very nearly lost their licence. 

[BigPancake]

7 minutes ago, TWY2911 said:

 

Didn't they get in a bit trouble last time they did it? Maybe it has something to do with that 

They did get in a lot of trouble because of the traffic chaos, likely because all the arrivals were crammed into two days rather than the usual three, they had 4 and 5 night tickets available in 2023. The mentions of 4 and 6 night that were hidden away would allow arrivals from Tuesday rather than Wednesday, could be their answer to the traffic issues. Unless they didn't get permission even with that adjustment.

[Siddey1994]

I don’t think they’ll ever do a 4 day again, nor should they imo. The current format of 5 days/3 arena days works perfectly.

[losing43]

I would be really happy with Deftones / Linkin Park / Ghost - but would that be a ‘big’ enough trio for the general DL attendee? 
 

Personally I would keep Deftones for 2027 for the 30 years of Around the Fur!

[northernangel]

42 minutes ago, TWY2911 said:

 

Didn't they get in a bit trouble last time they did it? Maybe it has something to do with that 

 

They planned the whole thing very badly from the opening point. Some festivals have been allowed people onsite from Wednesday without any trouble at all, Reading coming to mind that's setup in a town.

22 minutes ago, Siddey1994 said:

I don’t think they’ll ever do a 4 day again, nor should they imo. The current format of 5 days/3 arena days works perfectly.

 

The best way I have always thought to do it would be similar to Reading, with 5 day camping weekend tickets and standard camping tickets that allow entry from Thursday at like midday or whatever time it is and then you have a choice of whether to go Thursday or not until Friday morning. Then weekend arena only as usual and day tickets. Download would sell many more tickets of they allowed than Thursday as a setup an chill day to be included as part of a standard weekend ticket. Without it, I'd much rather do what I did and use vehicle for two nights in the car park, shuttle in, no dragging a tent in and setting up then straight off to the arena and you've got a based there to grab food and use the toilets for a quick wash down. The whole weekend with accommodation, travel in and out and still being able to have a drink for just tipping £310 as the standard but you'll get a weekend arena only for close to £200 down the line easy enough, 3 day camping was going for that within a week to go and 1 person even let a 5 day camping ticket go for £170. I'm unsure when the prices down go up like for the full weekend but relatively you'll get things cheaper. 

[Siddey1994]

3 minutes ago, losing43 said:

I would be really happy with Deftones / Linkin Park / Ghost - but would that be a ‘big’ enough trio for the general DL attendee? 
 

Personally I would keep Deftones for 2027 for the 30 years of Around the Fur!

Ghost sold out their UK arena leg and LP sold out Wembley, whether or not Deftones would be considered the “weaker” of the three that’s definitely big enough

[northernangel]

3 minutes ago, losing43 said:

I would be really happy with Deftones / Linkin Park / Ghost - but would that be a ‘big’ enough trio for the general DL attendee? 
 

Personally I would keep Deftones for 2027 for the 30 years of Around the Fur!

 

Your biggest issue with two of those is who are you going to get that should play 3rd down that's got to be bumped up or thinks we should be playing higher if they are. I think they can do that with one headliner, most obvious being Ghost but not two. Bullet looked like a really weak sub at this point but they aren't playing 3rd down if they are on a Korn headlining day. Their tour was probably the easiest arena tour I have seen in recent times to get tickets for. I'm not Ghost fan but I accept where they are and their place.

[northernangel]

4 minutes ago, Siddey1994 said:

Ghost sold out their UK arena leg and LP sold out Wembley, whether or not Deftones would be considered the “weaker” of the three that’s definitely big enough

 

Just a point about this, Ghost did all those same venues in 2022 before only headlining second at Download in 2023 too. I think 2 x the 02 is generally considered the point of headline, again I don't disagree they can headline though they did have tickets hanging around in this last tour a while and didn't opt to allow room for a second o2 either. They are a headliner but they are one of the smaller one's. Not weaker, but smaller.

[Siddey1994]

After the show up for Korn this year, I think we can safely put the “two nights at the O2” metric in the bin. 

[DomDom1984]

There's a difference between playing venues and filling them.

 

Otherwise Alter Bridge would be a constant headliner instead of constant sub.

 

Dunno about the second arena tour they did, but Ghost's first shot at the Hydro didn't sell well at all.

[Siddey1994]

2 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

There's a difference between playing venues and filling them.

 

Otherwise Alter Bridge would be a constant headliner instead of constant sub.

 

Dunno about the second arena tour they did, but Ghost's first shot at the Hydro didn't sell well at all.

To reiterate, they sold out their UK arena leg this year. I’m aware they had gaps on their 2022 leg, hence the 2nd stage headline slot at DL23, but I think it’d be silly to deny their headline status following this tour and album cycle.

Edited June 22, 2025 by Siddey1994

[DomDom1984]

Yep. Just explaining why they never headlined before, and should headline next time.

[Siddey1994]

2 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

Yep. Just explaining why they never headlined before, and should headline next time.

Ahhh my B disregard my comments 😅

[Andre91]

18 minutes ago, Siddey1994 said:

After the show up for Korn this year, I think we can safely put the “two nights at the O2” metric in the bin. 

I’ve never taken it as completely literal, I’ve always taken it as meaning the equivalent of so 40,000 at least. That metric is clearly more applicable when you take KoRn into account. 

[Spiral_Low]

1 hour ago, Siddey1994 said:

After the show up for Korn this year, I think we can safely put the “two nights at the O2” metric in the bin. 

 Gunnersbury Park plus the other shows they did last year was virtually equivalent capacity wise to 2 nights at the O2 and they sold them all out. Gunnersbury was 25000 which is bigger than 20000 at the O2. Scarborough I believe 8000 and Halfax I think 6000. So if the question is can a band sell around 40000 tickets headlining 2/3 of their own shows then yes Korn showed they could (39000 sell out in 3 dates is basically 2 nights at the o2 ticket sales wise).

Edited June 22, 2025 by Spiral_Low

[Andre91]

1 minute ago, Spiral_Low said:

As I've said on here before, Gunnersbury Park plus the other shows they did last year was equivalent capacity wise to 2 nights at the O2 and they sold them all out. Gunnersbury was 25000 which is bigger than 20000 at the O2. Scarborough I believe 9000 and Halfax I think 6000. So if the question is can a band sell 4000 tickets headlining 2/3 of their own shows then yes Korn showed they could.

Scarborough is about 6k, same as the Piece Hall. But yes, KoRn sold them all out, as have Deftones. The Smashing Pumpkins haven’t sold them out so that’s why they wouldn’t be considered for a headline slot but the other two are/would be.