Download 2026

[Siddey1994]

Can we not have Deftones headlining please? Not like they don’t deserve it, their catalogue is amazing but my god they are dull as dishwater live.

 

Ghost | LP | Blink

[northernangel]

1 hour ago, Andre91 said:

You still haven’t listened to it, then. 

 

I listened to the podcast about why Sleep Token was chosen and the snippet about 2026.

4 minutes ago, rock_on said:

 

You said and quote; "Either way, the festival won't be booking 3 completely new headliners". - I was just pointing out they booked 3 completely new headliners as far as Download goes this year so they're clearly willing to do it for the right bands.

 

They also booked 2 new headliners out of 3 last year so it's very possible they'll book 3 new headliner's next year going on form. They also booked a new headliner in 2023. No one is saying they won't book a stadium band, just that they'll be new to headline Download - like Green Day were this year. It's not difficult to understand.  

 

What are you going in about? Completely new for Download or not, Green Day have been headlining festivals in the UK for ywars and years. You don't need to start altering thing because it suits what you want to think and hear. They won't book 3 completely new headliners that haven't headlined anywhere in the UK, I'll guarantee it.

 

So if they booked 2 completely new headliners last year, it wasn't 3 was it?, FOB had also already headlined a festival in the UK by then. So one 2023 when they booked BMTH to headline and bookd Metallica and Slipknot it was still just one band that was new, not 3, got it. I didn't say people did say that, I pointed out they booked a stadium band headliner that was new. The idea of the quote completely new is exactly that, completely new! Korn and ST were completely new. If you're really trying to use Green Day as a completely new headliner example considering they've headlined MK Bowl, Reading, IOW, up in Scotland, V Fest I think maybe years ago then I'm not sure what to tell you. Apart from Glastonbury, there isn't anywhere fresh for then to go. If Download booked Ghost, Deftones, Parkway Drive next year to headline then that would be completely new, but they won't. And considering the podcasts mentioned 2027 and further taking more of a risk closer to ST, I'd absolutely guarantee any year that tries a trio like that. It won't be next year.

[northernangel]

10 minutes ago, Siddey1994 said:

Can we not have Deftones headlining please? Not like they don’t deserve it, their catalogue is amazing but my god they are dull as dishwater live.

 

Ghost | LP | Blink

No, we already had Weezer who were unfortunately dull as a sub this year, we don't need a headliner that are the same and patchy at best. And going by recent comments, some people think for that reasons Download wouldn't risk it, while others think they'll suddenly become a good live act if they start their set 2 hours later.

[Siddey1994]

9 minutes ago, northernangel said:

No, we already had Weezer who were unfortunately dull as a sub this year, we don't need a headliner that are the same and patchy at best. And going by recent comments, some people think for that reasons Download wouldn't risk it, while others think they'll suddenly become a good live act if they start their set 2 hours later.

Unclear if you’re referencing the headliners I mentioned or agreeing on Deftones

In terms of the latter, yeah playing a longer set into the dark isn’t going to suddenly make them good live

Edited June 22, 2025 by Siddey1994

[Andre91]

14 minutes ago, northernangel said:

 

I listened to the podcast about why Sleep Token was chosen and the snippet about 2026.

 

What are you going in about? Completely new for Download or not, Green Day have been headlining festivals in the UK for ywars and years. You don't need to start altering thing because it suits what you want to think and hear. They won't book 3 completely new headliners that haven't headlined anywhere in the UK, I'll guarantee it.

 

So if they booked 2 completely new headliners last year, it wasn't 3 was it?, FOB had also already headlined a festival in the UK by then. So one 2023 when they booked BMTH to headline and bookd Metallica and Slipknot it was still just one band that was new, not 3, got it. I didn't say people did say that, I pointed out they booked a stadium band headliner that was new. The idea of the quote completely new is exactly that, completely new! Korn and ST were completely new. If you're really trying to use Green Day as a completely new headliner example considering they've headlined MK Bowl, Reading, IOW, up in Scotland, V Fest I think maybe years ago then I'm not sure what to tell you. Apart from Glastonbury, there isn't anywhere fresh for then to go. If Download booked Ghost, Deftones, Parkway Drive next year to headline then that would be completely new, but they won't. And considering the podcasts mentioned 2027 and further taking more of a risk closer to ST, I'd absolutely guarantee any year that tries a trio like that. It won't be next year.

They had three brand new Download headliners this year. That’s a fact. 

[Andre91]

Deftones have more than enough material to fill a 90 minute set with lots of songs recognisable to casuals. 
 

Off the top of my head: 

 

Bored 

My Own Summer 

Be Quiet and Drive

Back To School 

Digital Bath 

Knife Prty 

Passenger 

Change in the House of Flies 

Minerva 

Diamond Eyes 

Rocket Skates 

Swerve City

 

Maybe Head Up and probably Genesis at this point. 

 

 

Edited June 22, 2025 by Andre91

[rock_on]

25 minutes ago, northernangel said:

 

I listened to the podcast about why Sleep Token was chosen and the snippet about 2026.

 

What are you going in about? Completely new for Download or not, Green Day have been headlining festivals in the UK for ywars and years. You don't need to start altering thing because it suits what you want to think and hear. They won't book 3 completely new headliners that haven't headlined anywhere in the UK, I'll guarantee it.

 

So if they booked 2 completely new headliners last year, it wasn't 3 was it?, FOB had also already headlined a festival in the UK by then. So one 2023 when they booked BMTH to headline and bookd Metallica and Slipknot it was still just one band that was new, not 3, got it. I didn't say people did say that, I pointed out they booked a stadium band headliner that was new. The idea of the quote completely new is exactly that, completely new! Korn and ST were completely new. If you're really trying to use Green Day as a completely new headliner example considering they've headlined MK Bowl, Reading, IOW, up in Scotland, V Fest I think maybe years ago then I'm not sure what to tell you. Apart from Glastonbury, there isn't anywhere fresh for then to go. If Download booked Ghost, Deftones, Parkway Drive next year to headline then that would be completely new, but they won't. And considering the podcasts mentioned 2027 and further taking more of a risk closer to ST, I'd absolutely guarantee any year that tries a trio like that. It won't be next year.

 

Nobody and I mean nobody in this thread has said that they'll book 3 completely new headliners that haven't headlined any festival in the UK before. We've said they will book 3 new to Download headliners, which is what we can infer from what Jenny Cotter said on the Uprawr podcast. You're arguing against a position that nobody has actually taken by anyone and were being unclear about it - we've been saying they'll book three completely new Download headliners consistently - that includes Green Day (or Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Nine Inch Nails etc who might still headline next year). You can't just suddenly decide the discussion includes every other festival because you want to look less of an idiot. You're literally changing the definition of a new headliner to make a counter argument to an argument that isn't even being made in the first place. You're right they might not book three completely new UK headliners - but we're not on about UK headliners!! We're on about Download headliners. You're the one altering what things mean to suit your agenda.

 

I know your reading comprehension is low but this just embarrassing on your part at this point.

Edited June 22, 2025 by rock_on

[northernangel]

8 minutes ago, Siddey1994 said:

Unclear if you’re referencing the headliners I mentioned or agreeing on Deftones

In terms of the latter, yeah playing a longer set into the dark isn’t going to suddenly make them good live

 

Definitely on the Deftones point. Your headliner guess is as good as any though I doubt LP are doing Saturday. It massively aligns for Sunday. I would even potentially book Ghost on Saturday as you're likely to get a lot of fans of both Blink and LP opt for a weekend arena ticket at least. I would probably if they booked those two grav a weekend arena ticket, sleep in the car at east mids, grab a weekend shuttle pass and make the most of Saturday if not head into Nottingham, but I would be picking up my ticket based on that I was only making use of when I was. 

5 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

They had three brand new Download headliners this year. That’s a fact. 

 

Yes Download had 3 headliners that have never headlined before, I didn't deny that. I said they won't be booking 3 completely new headliners next year as in new to be headliners. Korn and ST were new as they haven't headlined anywhere....though Korn playing several times before a twice and at least right near the top doesn't make them fresh....they just added 3 songs into their set. LP would certainly be a completely different setup mind. 

4 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

Deftones have more than enough material to fill a 90 minute set with lots of songs recognisable to casuals. 
 

Off the top of my head: 

 

Bored 

My Own Summer 

Be Quiet and Drive

Back To School 

Digital Bath 

Knife Prty 

Passenger 

Change in the House of Flies 

Minerva 

Diamond Eyes 

Rocket Skates 

Swerve City

 

 

No one is denying that, but they are gash!

[Andre91]

3 minutes ago, northernangel said:

 

 

No one is denying that, but they are gash!

Brilliant argument here; ‘I don’t like them so nobody should get to see them play.’

[rock_on]

2 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

Brilliant argument here; ‘I don’t like them so nobody should get to see them play.’

To be fair there last appearance at Download wasn't exactly earth-shattering going by the reviews. I don't think there big enough to headline anyway to be honest - I haven't heard of any of those songs you listed - at least Korn had Freak on a Leash, Coming Undone, Word Up, Blind and Twisted Transistor for the casuals. 

[Siddey1994]

He’s right though. Again I’m a fan of Deftones, have been going on 20 years now. But they would go down like a lead balloon.

[northernangel]

8 minutes ago, rock_on said:

 

Nobody and I mean nobody in this thread has said that they'll book 3 completely new headliners that haven't headlined any festival in the UK before. We've said they will book 3 new to Download headliners, which is what we can infer from what Jenny Cotter said on the Uprawr podcast. You're arguing against a position that nobody has actually taken by anyone and were being unclear about it - we've been saying they'll book three completely new Download headliners consistently - that includes Green Day (or Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Nine Inch Nails etc who might still headline next year). You can't just suddenly decide the discussion includes every other festival because you want to look less of an idiot. You're literally changing the definition of a new headliner to make a counter argument to an argument that isn't even being made in the first place. You're right they might not book three completely new UK headliners - but we're not on about UK headliners!! We're on about Download headliners. You're the one altering what things mean to suit your agenda.

 

I know your reading comprehension is low but this just embarrassing on your part at this point.

You don't know what you're even typing lad to call someone's else's reading comprehension low. She hasn't inferred that at all, you're talking sh*t and listening to what you want to hear. She said new headliners, on no way does she refer all 3 new headliners at all at any part so stop making your own narrative bollocks up.

 

I'm not altering anything, I'm just not reading naff all into what's not been said. You have very clearly made a point that they would book 3 new headliners completely. I'm pretty sure you saying 3 completely new headliners inferred just that! Why would they be saying they aren't going to take as big a gamble as this year in ST but then still book 3 completely new headliners as it's extremely unlikely you can't book that while not taking more risk.

[Andre91]

3 minutes ago, rock_on said:

To be fair there last appearance at Download wasn't exactly earth-shattering going by the reviews. I don't think there big enough to headline anyway to be honest - I haven't heard of any of those songs you listed - at least Korn had Freak on a Leash, Coming Undone, Word Up, Blind and Twisted Transistor for the casuals. 

Oh, their last appearance at Download wasn’t good at all. It was my first time seeing them and I was so excited but it just fell flat. A lot of that was down to the sound which was so quiet and patchy; KoRn played the same slot the next day and the sound was amazing. Their setlist was brilliant but yeah, it just left me feeling deflated. 

[Andre91]

3 minutes ago, northernangel said:

You don't know what you're even typing lad to call someone's else's reading comprehension low. She hasn't inferred that at all, you're talking sh*t and listening to what you want to hear. She said new headliners, on no way does she refer all 3 new headliners at all at any part so stop making your own narrative bollocks up.

 

I'm not altering anything, I'm just not reading naff all into what's not been said. You have very clearly made a point that they would book 3 new headliners completely. I'm pretty sure you saying 3 completely new headliners inferred just that! Why would they be saying they aren't going to take as big a gamble as this year in ST but then still book 3 completely new headliners as it's extremely unlikely you can't book that while not taking more risk.

Neither the podcast lady nor rock_on have inferred anything, they’ve implied it 🙃

[northernangel]

7 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

Brilliant argument here; ‘I don’t like them so nobody should get to see them play.’

 

So now you're ignoring the other people with the same opinion yhen just because as always it doesn't suit your own opinion and you have to be right? That's the real thing going on here isn't it, let's be honest at least! People have commented how bad Deftones have been the last 3 times they've seen them yet your argument was to pull out and 90 minute setlist of which no one denied they are capable of doing. GNR can do it too but they sound awful now, but that angle won't matter to you because you don't want them anyway.

3 minutes ago, Siddey1994 said:

He’s right though. Again I’m a fan of Deftones, have been going on 20 years now. But they would go down like a lead balloon.

 

Yeah unfortunately when he has his opinion then it's all set in stone how it is and nothing can change that. He won't care about anyone else's opinion on it, just because I dislike them and they are rubbish live that's what will matter.

[Andre91]

1 minute ago, northernangel said:

 

So now you're ignoring the other people with the same opinion yhen just because as always it doesn't suit your own opinion and you have to be right? That's the real thing going on here isn't it, let's be honest at least! People have commented how bad Deftones have been the last 3 times they've seen them yet your argument was to pull out and 90 minute setlist of which no one denied they are capable of doing. GNR can do it too but they sound awful now, but that angle won't matter to you because you don't want them anyway.

 

Yeah unfortunately when he has his opinion then it's all set in stone how it is and nothing can change that. He won't care about anyone else's opinion on it, just because I dislike them and they are rubbish live that's what will matter.

Are you feeling ok, Gaz? 

[northernangel]

1 minute ago, Andre91 said:

Neither the podcast lady nor rock_on have inferred anything, they’ve implied it 🙃

I've listened to Jenny Cotter for you information, difference people have taken difference stances over it but absolutely nowhere does she says all 3 will be new headliners, she said there will be new headliners if they can lock them in. There has been new headliners recently so it's not much of a shock is it.

 

I don't know what I'm supposed to have implied, I've said there won't be 3 completely new headliners at Download and there won't be. If you want it yo be specific to Download you mean, then make a point of it.

[rock_on]

10 minutes ago, northernangel said:

Yeah unfortunately when he has his opinion then it's all set in stone how it is and nothing can change that. He won't care about anyone else's opinion on it, just because I dislike them and they are rubbish live that's what will matter.

The absolute irony of this....

[Andre91]

1 minute ago, rock_on said:

The absolute irony of this....

Like talking to a wall. 

[rock_on]

6 minutes ago, northernangel said:

I've listened to Jenny Cotter for you information, difference people have taken difference stances over it but absolutely nowhere does she says all 3 will be new headliners, she said there will be new headliners if they can lock them in. There has been new headliners recently so it's not much of a shock is it.

 

I don't know what I'm supposed to have implied, I've said there won't be 3 completely new headliners at Download and there won't be. If you want it yo be specific to Download you mean, then make a point of it.

 

She said they'd be new headliners if they lock in - which implies all three will be new headliners once locked in. We're in the Download thread for crying out loud, if you want to start including every other festival then you're the one who needs to make a point of it. Download are booking three completely new headliners as far as Download is concerned. I'm not sure why you've suddenly decided completely new headliners means can't have headlined any other festival, in this thread the onus is on you to make clear when you're deciding to broaden the criteria that much- which you didn't. 

[northernangel]

8 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

Are you feeling ok, Gaz? 

 Absolutely fab! I'm going to leave this here at there is no point really.

 

Maybe at some point you'll actually realise there are more people that disagree with you from time to time as well and your thoughts on bands rather than just me and you'll acknowledge it. If someone is telling you as a fan of Deftones for exmaple for 20 years there is something in it more than just being saying it and others have commented as well in recent weeks, it might be worth taking note of. Those people also don't want to end their night with a terribly sounding headliner just to make a point that they made it. 

Just now, rock_on said:

The absolute irony of this....

 

You're opinion you can have it, got no problem with that but you're meaning of you're new headliners completely and what you've heard hadn't come across the best in your speech, maybe mine hasn't either. But you've been on here for 8 days and laughed at me mentioning someone who's been on here before as a very good source for previous information so forgive me if I think not everything you're saying aligns.

[northernangel]

3 minutes ago, rock_on said:

 

She said they'd be new headliners if they lock in - which implies all three will be new headliners once locked in. We're in the Download thread for crying out loud, if you want to start including every other festival then you're the one who needs to make a point of it. Download are booking three completely new headliners as far as Download is concerned. I'm not sure why you've suddenly decided completely new headliners means can't have headlined any other festival, in this thread the onus is on you to make clear when you're deciding to broaden the criteria that much- which you didn't. 

 

How does that imply all 3 will be new just because she said there would be new headliners?, it doesn't at all. They'd be ALL is the key word missing there. 

 

Just to make you very clear and aware on this forum, just because you are in one particular festival thread, does not mean they are just a new headliner for that festival, they have just booked a new headliner for the festivalthat hasn't headlined any UK festival ever before, hell they hadnt even played above second stage sub anywhere. It's a festival forum, not just a Download forum. With respect, I've been on here a lot longer than you have to be aware of that so no the onus is not on me. But anyway, we'll leave that. 3 new and fresh headliners for Download.

[Andre91]

3 minutes ago, northernangel said:

 Absolutely fab! I'm going to leave this here at there is no point really.

 

Maybe at some point you'll actually realise there are more people that disagree with you from time to time as well and your thoughts on bands rather than just me and you'll acknowledge it. If someone is telling you as a fan of Deftones for exmaple for 20 years there is something in it more than just being saying it and others have commented as well in recent weeks, it might be worth taking note of. Those people also don't want to end their night with a terribly sounding headliner just to make a point that they made it. 

 

You're opinion you can have it, got no problem with that but you're meaning of you're new headliners completely and what you've heard hadn't come across the best in your speech, maybe mine hasn't either. But you've been on here for 8 days and laughed at me mentioning someone who's been on here before as a very good source for previous information so forgive me if I think not everything you're saying aligns.

I just said about 4 posts above that Deftones were crap the only time I’ve seen them. Isn’t that the point you’re making, which I’ve agreed with? Not every band can be Biffy Clyro and play 10/10 sets every time 🙃

 

You’d like to think that a band making their first headline appearance after 30 years would pull out all the stops to ensure it was special. Much like KoRn this year. It’s Download. Of course tens of thousands of people there will want to see Deftones, like they have every time they’ve played. But you don’t like them, do you, so they will obviously play to an empty field. That irony again, eh…

[Spiral_Low]

1 hour ago, Andre91 said:

Deftones have more than enough material to fill a 90 minute set with lots of songs recognisable to casuals. 
 

Off the top of my head: 

 

Bored 

My Own Summer 

Be Quiet and Drive

Back To School 

Digital Bath 

Knife Prty 

Passenger 

Change in the House of Flies 

Minerva 

Diamond Eyes 

Rocket Skates 

Swerve City

 

Maybe Head Up and probably Genesis at this point. 

 

 

You missed Cherry Waves. I don't use tik tok but it blew up on there. But yes I agree with your assessment. 

[Andre91]

14 minutes ago, Spiral_Low said:

You missed Cherry Waves. I don't use tik tok but it blew up on there. But yes I agree with your assessment. 

If we’re going on TikTok, Sex Tape needs to be chucked in there too.