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12 hours ago, Neil said:

hamas don't want it to stop and are refusing the ceasefire offer 

Hamas had their own ceasefire offer which wasn't acceptable to Israel, and visa versa. This is what they trying to sort out with negotiations behind the scenes but don't seem to be making any progress. Meanwhile 100s of Palestinians dying every day has just become background noise.

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6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Hamas had their own ceasefire offer which wasn't acceptable to Israel, and visa versa. This is what they trying to sort out with negotiations behind the scenes but don't seem to be making any progress. Meanwhile 100s of Palestinians dying every day has just become background noise.

that's obviously not a huge concern to Hamas Palestinians. if Hamas didn't realise things would happen as they have they know less about middle eastern politics than me.

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9 hours ago, steviewevie said:

IDF desperately going round this hospital shooting anyone in the hope that they might be Hamas.

invading a hospital isn't a good look, Israeli forces looking more and more shambolic - no plan.

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Netanyahu still ignoring anything its allies, specifically USA says...no ceasefire, no Palestinian state, no end to war until Hamas defeated. All this for his own political survival. The bloke needs taking out, literally. There needs to be an intervention, if US/UN/others don't do it then surrounding countries will and then there really will be a wider war.

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6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Netanyahu still ignoring anything its allies, specifically USA says...no ceasefire, no Palestinian state, no end to war until Hamas defeated. All this for his own political survival. The bloke needs taking out, literally. There needs to be an intervention, if US/UN/others don't do it then surrounding countries will and then there really will be a wider war.

This is really no surprise and was clear as day right from the start.

And yes there really should be an intervention by "the west", but there won't be. Not sure surrounding countries will get involved as they know USA and the UK will attack them.

 

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2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Netanyahu still ignoring anything its allies, specifically USA says...no ceasefire, no Palestinian state, no end to war until Hamas defeated. All this for his own political survival. The bloke needs taking out, literally. There needs to be an intervention, if US/UN/others don't do it then surrounding countries will and then there really will be a wider war.

is he meant to force on them what they don't want?

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2 hours ago, Skip997 said:

This is really no surprise and was clear as day right from the start.

so why did Hamas choose to cause the very_predictable, guess they wanted gaza shot up!

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4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

yes ok...Russia slowly and surely not losing in Ukraine.

I think they are making gains...Russia have been making/buying a lot of weapons, Ukraine are running out.

ukraine&russia have been running out for a year cos most countries have downsized their weapons production capacity. most of what we send them is stuff that's about to pass its use-by-date and would need to be destroyed & replaced - so its free.

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9 hours ago, Neil said:

ukraine&russia have been running out for a year cos most countries have downsized their weapons production capacity. most of what we send them is stuff that's about to pass its use-by-date and would need to be destroyed & replaced - so its free.

Russia are definitely not running out, they are running a successful war economy and also buying weapons from N Korea and drones from Iran. Ukraine are running out because funds from US and Europe have been drying up, especially US with Republicans blocking. I think Ukraine are running out of time, and maybe will agree to some deal where they lose the east of their country sometime this year. They might want to get things resolved if looks like Trump is heading to the whitehouse. Problem is, would Russia stick to the deal, or would they just invade rest of Ukraine in a few years time...

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