Ommadawn Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 3 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Sky's projection... Not quite a landslide then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 5 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Sky's projection... You can’t really project results for a local election where only a select few areas are up for election onto a general election. Lab won the WM by-election today with a 26% swing in-line with polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 14 minutes ago, Ozanne said: You can’t really project results for a local election where only a select few areas are up for election onto a general election. Lab won the WM by-election today with a 26% swing in-line with polls. well, it's a projection, not a prediction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 London mayoral election latest...what has got the Khan team spooked is turnout in areas that would normally be voting Khan/Labour have a much lower turnout than the outer London lot who are all angry about ulez and more likely to vote Hall/Tory. So, it might actually happen which would be bad for Labour, bad for London, and bad for Green policies going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 minute ago, steviewevie said: London mayoral election latest...what has got the Khan team spooked is turnout in areas that would normally be voting Khan/Labour have a much lower turnout than the outer London lot who are all angry about ulez and more likely to vote Hall/Tory. So, it might actually happen which would be bad for Labour, bad for London, and bad for Green policies going forward. so it could be a mix of apathy, FPTP, voter ID and a profound dislike of Khan/ULEZ which could do it for Khan. (but I bet he still wins, but might be tight). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 6 minutes ago, steviewevie said: well, it's a projection, not a prediction. Yes and you can’t really project local election results onto a general election. It’s best to compare against other locals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Interesting Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 minute ago, Ozanne said: Yes and you can’t really project local election results onto a general election. It’s best to compare against other locals. and as you have been at pains to say in the recent past, you can't use by-election results either............................. yet you do when it suits you LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 minute ago, steviewevie said: so it could be a mix of apathy, FPTP, voter ID and a profound dislike of Khan/ULEZ which could do it for Khan. (but I bet he still wins, but might be tight). and people voting for binface for the lols because Khan had a 20 point lead in the polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 (edited) 12 minutes ago, steviewevie said: and people voting for binface for the lols because Khan had a 20 point lead in the polls. and if Hall does win (or it's close) the take away will be don't ever assume polls are right, if you actually want the tories out, despite Labour's failings, vote and vote tactically...which might mean not voting for your first choice. If you just want to hurt Starmer and would be nonplussed by Tories staying in power as long as Labour lose...then go ahead, fill your boots...it's the same with in the US and those who can't vote for Biden...enjoy Trump. Edited May 3 by steviewevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 4 minutes ago, steviewevie said: It would be classic Sunak for him to jump on this and base his next rebrand over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 30 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said: and as you have been at pains to say in the recent past, you can't use by-election results either............................. yet you do when it suits you LOL All the by elections have been positive for Labour … not sure I’ve seen Ozanne say this . Can you quote an example ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 12 minutes ago, Ozanne said: It would be classic Sunak for him to jump on this and base his next rebrand over it. it does look like Sunak will be leader and PM leading into the next election, and that election will likely be in the autumn, probably November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyred Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 31 minutes ago, Ozanne said: The PNS in 1995 had Labour at 46 instead of 34 today. So 21 points ahead of Tories compared to 9 today. https://labourlist.org/2024/05/local-elections-results-2024-bbc-national-share-labour-tories/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 14 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said: All the by elections have been positive for Labour … not sure I’ve seen Ozanne say this . Can you quote an example ? don't ask him for evidence, he gets all angsty. (sorry should have used them/they there) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 minute ago, lazyred said: The PNS in 1995 had Labour at 46 instead of 34 today. So 21 points ahead of Tories compared to 9 today. https://labourlist.org/2024/05/local-elections-results-2024-bbc-national-share-labour-tories/ and it just goes to show how much Labour need to do to win just a one seat majority...which may excite the starmer haters novara media lovies but in the end will likely mean a hung parliament that doesn't get anything done and so another election with Tories winning with Patel/Badenoch/Johnson/Farage in charge and a country that goes even further to the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Interesting Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said: All the by elections have been positive for Labour … not sure I’ve seen Ozanne say this . Can you quote an example ? Oh sorry, for a moment I thought I was steviewevie who is allowed to make comments and not provide proof LOL Go back through the pages on this thread, there are examples a plenty of them saying you cannot use byelections to predict the general election. You will certainly fin d examples when Galloway won the by election. Edited May 3 by Nobody Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 and before any c**t calls me a centristy liberal c**t I was saying the same sh*t in 2019 when people didn't want Boris Johnson or brexit but couldn't vote Labour because of Corbyn...stop being so f**king idealist ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said: Oh sorry, for a moment I thought I was steviewevie who is allowed to make comments and not provide proof LOL Go back through the pages on this thread, there are examples a plenty of them saying you cannot use byelections to predict the general election. LOL. You're funny. How about you provide the evidence to back up your shite for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 5 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said: Oh sorry, for a moment I thought I was steviewevie who is allowed to make comments and not provide proof LOL Go back through the pages on this thread, there are examples a plenty of them saying you cannot use byelections to predict the general election. You will certainly fin d examples when Galloway won the by election. I’ve been reading and can’t find any . That’s why I asked . Gaza I would say is a good example of where other issues have come into play . He’d not be an mp otherwise . I’m not always In agreement with the posts but think it’s fair if you suggest something’s been said then you ( anyone ) is able to find said post . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 5 hours ago, fraybentos1 said: what have I lied about exactly? What did you make up that you posted.if you're not aware of your lying habits you're a bit lacking in awareness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 2 minutes ago, steviewevie said: overall though Labour have done well in Manchester...even gained a seat from Green in nearby Hulme. Won easily where I am, only 35% turnout though...there was a workers party candidate who came 3rd after Greens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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