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36 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

some people probably thought same when Ireland did it.

today Ireland is more economically dependant on the EU than Scotland is on the UK. there'll be little EU money for Scotland the days of EU largesse are over.

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20 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Anyway, don't think they'll get referendum granted, so maybe it will end up in courts...

its in the courts already the courts is the only way theyre getting the ref.

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Just now, steviewevie said:

Woah. Now that's fighting talk.

just an observation from afar the bullshit shouts loudly at a distance. Bristol has had better majors.

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Just now, steviewevie said:

Bristol??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

- has had better majors - the place at the forefront of democratic change  (1838 reforms; look it up: race relations act, google 'roy hacket', the best geezer you've never heard of)

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13 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Truss says no to austerity...so...err...unless they're uturning on the tax cuts I guess fuck the OBR and the markets and let's just hope this Growth thing works....

Is she PM purely so she can be an agent of chaos?

I'm scratching my head trying to understand this shit. So, she ran on tax cuts, which means it would be beyond humiliating to uturn on those (and the tory party would tear her/itself apart) and would leave her with nothing left to talk about...but there's no time for the green shoots of growth to emerge to prove her right before the halloween OBR drop, by which time the markets will have savaged us with decades worth of monumental debt.

And then I read that the BoE let govt know early this morning the substance of below...and afterwards the cabinet didn't even discuss it <sigh>.

 

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12 minutes ago, Kurosagi said:

Is she PM purely so she can be an agent of chaos?

I'm scratching my head trying to understand this shit. So, she ran on tax cuts, which means it would be beyond humiliating to uturn on those (and the tory party would tear her/itself apart) and would leave her with nothing left to talk about...but there's no time for the green shoots of growth to emerge to prove her right before the halloween OBR drop, by which time the markets will have savaged us with decades worth of monumental debt.

And then I read that the BoE let govt know early this morning the substance of below...and afterwards the cabinet didn't even discuss it <sigh>.

 

I guess saying austerity doesn't sound good...whereas efficiency savings sounds like should be ok. Might have to be a lot of these savings though.

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It's not going to wash though is it. Health/social care already pretty broken, education openly suffering now too. The widening gap between public and private sector pay will make recruitment to the public sector even harder where because of previous year on year cuts has left depts at threadbare staffing levels.

If I'm to be cynical, then it's creating the perfect opportunity for Truss to throw her hands up in the air with a faux "what else can we do..." and spend the next two years on a mission to privatise what's left of the public sector. The similarities with what happened in greece is feeling closer...I suppose we could learn from them by starting to sell off some of our islands to the highest bidder, the Isle of Wight would raise a nice sum to keep the lights on for another year or two.

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