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Kwasi Kwarteng has blamed the “pressure” of the Queen’s death for mistakes in the mini-budget which has plunged the Tory party in crisis.

“We had a nation in mourning and then, literally, four days after the funeral we had the mini-budget,” the chancellor said.

 

“It was a high speed, high pressure environment and we could, as David Cameron used to say, have prepared the pitch a bit better.”

 

Mr Kwarteng also sparked fresh confusion over his next financial statement, saying: “It’s going to be 23 November,” – despite the Treasury briefing it has been brought forward to October.

And he said the scrapping of the 45p tax rate for top earners has merely been “postponed”, before correcting himself to say: “We have decided not to proceed with it.”

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kwasi-kwarteng-mini-budget-queen-death-b2195185.html

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17 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Sounds sensible. Raising interest rates is the mechanism to combat inflation when it’s driven by high consumer confidence not when it’s supply issues like now.

it's difficult...they want to try and stop inflation getting too high, despite it being mostly driven by supply side...but at same time if they keep rising then chances of recession and more pain increases.

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52 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

it's difficult...they want to try and stop inflation getting too high, despite it being mostly driven by supply side...but at same time if they keep rising then chances of recession and more pain increases.

Exactly. One of the issues with the economy is people not spending as much because bills are so high and wages aren’t rising as quickly. So the BoE raising interest rates would add to that issue from my limited understanding of it. 

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10 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Exactly. One of the issues with the economy is people not spending as much because bills are so high and wages aren’t rising as quickly. So the BoE raising interest rates would add to that issue from my limited understanding of it. 

yep..but they're worried about inflation...it's almost as if they want a short mild recession to help limit and then bring down inflation.

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20 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yep..but they're worried about inflation...it's almost as if they want a short mild recession to help limit and then bring down inflation.

Oh yeah I know they are worried about inflation. My point is that people don’t have much money as it is so doing this could make it worse.

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Is it time for me to make my prediction that Truss will call a general election to save herself from her party?

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My prediction is....I have no idea!....but would she really call an election with them polling so badly?! Either she'll get kicked out and they'll get Sunak or Mordaunt or even Johnson in as leader...or some how she'll stagger on, maybe after booting out Kwarteng and uturning on a bunch of stuff and bigging it up on the culture war stuff. But...who knows?!?

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4 hours ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Braverman will turn conference around .... 

which is what she won't do to immigrants in boats, i hope.

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Just now, Neil said:

which is what she won't do to immigrants in boats, i hope.

No she’ll try and sink them just like her predecessor… or pretend they have the jurisdiction to do it . Here we go it’s the boats ….. ah she’s gonna work with the French … maybe better in the eu … Rwanda …. And hotels we need to get them out costs us 5m a day … and those damn european courts … 

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