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[Guest]

 

[steviewevie]

Over to you Liz (or Rishi...or Boris..)

 

[steviewevie]

8 hours ago, Ozanne said:

 

Kind of stupid, she's already won after all. 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Over to you Liz (or Rishi...or Boris..)

 

Gotta protect those energy firms. 

[Guest]

Ofgem have made a choice today to put hardship into millions just to ensure energy firms can make a profit. 

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Ofgem have made a choice today to put hardship into millions just to ensure energy firms can make a profit. 

they're just doing their job, it isnt down to them, it is down to the government if they want to freeze cap and pay the difference.

[steviewevie]

could be above £5000 in Jan.

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

they're just doing their job, it isnt down to them, it is down to the government if they want to freeze cap and pay the difference.

Yes you are right but Ofgem could’ve made the decision to protect consumers more than they have. They made this decision they along with the Tories are complicit. 

[steviewevie]

anyway, another couple of weeks of Sunak and Truss saying any old dumb shit to win over tory members, and then whoever wins will have this shit to deal with, and a few tax cuts isn't going to come close.

[steviewevie]

everything goes to shit...tories are staring at defeat in 2024...bring back boris.

[Guest]

Bring on Keir. 

[steviewevie]

meanwhile

 

[Guest]

Where is the government or anyone from the Tories this morning?

[lost]

We have 4 figures!

 

[Guest]

Still no government Minister. If they don’t want to govern then just call an election and let Labour do it. 
 

Sorry, Zahawi has been on the TV but that’s it. 

Edited August 26, 2022 by Ozanne

[lost]

France are saying the energy price cap won't last beyond December as its far too expensive. What appears to be happening is European companies are shifting their energy intensive operations to France where they can buy energy below market rate. France's energy usage is increasing exponentially leaving French tax payers with a limitless bill.

[Neil]

the wholesale suppliers of energy  to uk consumers should make a packet, as they should have contracts with a buying price well-below the current high  market-prices. for example, a lot of our gas comes via tanker from Qatar, and the prices for that are probably locked in.

[Guest]

I wonder why there’s comment today about other countries situations? Seems a bit odd to try to make our situation not seem as bad.

It’s a Tory tactic. 

[lost]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

the wholesale suppliers of energy  to uk consumers should make a packet, as they should have contracts with a buying price well-below the current high  market-prices. for example, a lot of our gas comes via tanker from Qatar, and the prices for that are probably locked in.

Yep the price above for Germany is buying energy now for Q1 2023. Could easily go the other way though if say we get a peace deal in Ukraine they could lose a packet buying at that price.

[Guest]

 

[steviewevie]

 

[ian the worm]

[steviewevie]

44 minutes ago, ian the worm said:

gym memberships will go up too.

[lost]

 

 

[steviewevie]

19 minutes ago, lost said:

 

 

Does much of US oil get exported to Europe?