U.S. Presidential Election

[steviewevie]

52 minutes ago, Kurosagi said:

 

Not got enough time to watch that, but do they answer the key question of whether women traditionally vote earlier or whether this is a new development for 2024?

They say that women do usually vote early, it's from about 15 minutes.

[maelzoid]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Not ideal.

 

Jobs created rather than jobs lost is not exactly bad news.

[FloopFiller]

4 hours ago, Kurosagi said:

Were US pollsters always so partisan or is this a noticeable development during this particular election cycle?

I think there have always been Republican backed polls that put their fingers on the scale, but there seems to be an influx of them this year and they’re working overtime to release new favourable Trump polls whenever positive Harris polls are released. 
 

Is pretty hilarious that they’re essentially gaslighting their base and making the loss even more crushing, but then it’s all to feed in to the rigged election story and appease Trump. 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, maelzoid said:

Jobs created rather than jobs lost is not exactly bad news.

it's a slowdown, a lot fewer than expected and from previous months. Looks like reason is strikes and hurricanes.

[steviewevie]

37 minutes ago, FloopFiller said:

I think there have always been Republican backed polls that put their fingers on the scale, but there seems to be an influx of them this year and they’re working overtime to release new favourable Trump polls whenever positive Harris polls are released. 
 

Is pretty hilarious that they’re essentially gaslighting their base and making the loss even more crushing, but then it’s all to feed in to the rigged election story and appease Trump. 

 

[FloopFiller]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Sad that this isn’t even really news. He did it last time and he’s doing the exact same thing this time. You’ve just got to wonder what the plan is this time given he’s in a weaker position to steal it now that he’s not President and he failed miserably last time. 

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[maelzoid]

1 hour ago, FloopFiller said:

Sad that this isn’t even really news. He did it last time and he’s doing the exact same thing this time. You’ve just got to wonder what the plan is this time given he’s in a weaker position to steal it now that he’s not President and he failed miserably last time. 

He has sentencing later this month so I think he'll keep pretty quiet until then. There may be unrest, but it will likely be smaller and more localised rather than in DC.

 

When he loses, I expect he'll be out of the country before inauguration day, and very possibly before his sentencing.

[Kurosagi]

2 hours ago, FloopFiller said:

Is pretty hilarious that they’re essentially gaslighting their base and making the loss even more crushing, but then it’s all to feed in to the rigged election story and appease Trump. 

 

Yeah, this stresses me out. Trump knows it's all part of his populist/fascist playbook, but a huge amount of americans really seem to believe this sh*t. It's playing with fire.

 

1 hour ago, FloopFiller said:

Sad that this isn’t even really news. He did it last time and he’s doing the exact same thing this time. You’ve just got to wonder what the plan is this time given he’s in a weaker position to steal it now that he’s not President and he failed miserably last time. 

 

Doesn't have the same civil war uprising theme as last time, the militias don't seem as obviously prominent as before. It feels more like he'll try/fail the legal challenge route and drag it out as long as possible.

 

3 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

When he loses, I expect he'll be out of the country before inauguration day, and very possibly before his sentencing.

 

I really hope you're right, that would be a good result all round. I can imagine a lot of attention though given to the 'true president in exile' narrative but I just can't see the chance of a coup in the US especially given the number of generals, Cheney etc coming out against him. Hilarious if he went into exile in Russia.

 

That said, it's easy to forget the US is a pretty young country and perhaps now is the time he feels he can break the system and rule unfettered with the encouragement of half of the country...

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

Might have to change my mind at this rate.

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[FloopFiller]

Strong closing message from Trump

 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, FloopFiller said:

Strong closing message from Trump

 

he's not doing what I think he's doing is he?

[FloopFiller]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

he's not doing what I think he's doing is he?

I think he was signalling that the microphone stand is too low, but then somehow turned that in to full on deep throating the thing.

[FloopFiller]

I’m sure most people have seen this by now but Michael Moore has put his Trump 2016 victory documentary Fahrenheit 11/9 up on Youtube free to watch. Giving it a rewatch now:

 

 

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[FloopFiller]

Kamala landslide coming, just you wait.

[steviewevie]

BET NOW!

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[steviewevie]

Trump +10

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[FloopFiller]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

So apparently Harris being +3 here from this pollster is a really big deal.
 

Landslide incoming.