Thatcher is Dead

[kaosmark2]

Back to Thatcher, an article from the Telegraph about how what is effectively a state funeral undermines our political system:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9984619/Margaret-Thatcher-This-is-a-state-funeral-and-thats-a-mistake.html

Some horrible lines in there, and personally I think the partisan nature of the royals needs to be shown up (although the released reports of blatant exertion of influence last year didn't do much), but worth reading nevertheless.

[whisty]

2/3rds of Forensic Scientists get paid under £32k.

[whisty]

The RMT has nothing to do with train drivers' pay. The RMT doesn't represent train drivers, ASLEF does

[russycarps]

£42k seems like a reasonable wage for a job with such responsibility and potential stress factors.

[t8yman]

everyone talks about London standards, London is absolutely not a yardstick by which the rest of the country should be measured. £42k up here will buy you a terraced house. Cash.

[russycarps]

everyone talks about London standards, London is absolutely not a yardstick by which the rest of the country should be measured. £42k up here will buy you a terraced house. Cash.

[fred quimby]

2/3rds of Forensic Scientists get paid under £32k.

Edited April 11, 2013 by fred quimby

[whisty]

'Ding Dong! The Witch Is Dead' closer to number one spot as it reaches midweek top ten following Margaret Thatcher's death.

The BBC said it would decide whether to play Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead during Radio 1's top 40 countdown when places are finalised this weekend"

Capital Radio which supplies 130 radio stations around the UK with the top 40 are also undecided on whether to play it or not!

Edited April 11, 2013 by whisty

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Indeed. £42K not even a high wage by london standards.

Everyone elses wages needs to go up, not train drivers brought down. To blame the drivers £42k salary on the high ticket fares is absurd.

It's not a race to the bottom

[t8yman]

Edited April 11, 2013 by t8yman

[hot_ice]

see:

[fred quimby]

o

you'll still never convince me that 42k is a realistic wage for someone who drives a train, a job that requires frighteningly low levels of training to do.

[russycarps]

nope, if you drive a train from leeds to sheffield you get the same.

of course, but I'm talking about the real world, not some socialist, equal utopia that I too would love to live in.

you'll still never convince me that 42k is a realistic wage for someone who drives a train, a job that requires frighteningly low levels of training to do.

[Kyelo]

I am from the North of Scotland where oil is big business. I know people who would struggle to write their own names, literally no school qualifications who are earning £15-£25k per month. I agree with capitalism but it is a cruel wench if your own the wrong side.

[t8yman]

o

What value would you give it then?

[Paul ™]

£15-25K per month?? bolloxs

[russycarps]

£15-25K per month?? bolloxs

[Guest]

the only reason 42k is perceived to be an unrealistically high wage is because we've been fucked over for so long, and been conned into thinking what people get for being 'dole-scroungers' (sic) is actually a reasonable wage.

Edited April 11, 2013 by tonyblair

[Guest]

20-25k (and thats being generous (especially for the north of england) the level on intelligence and training required is ridiculously low. everyone wants their job. most of them go from being stewards, to train managers, to drivers.

[Kyelo]

20-25k (and thats being generous (especially for the north of england) the level on intelligence and training required is ridiculously low. everyone wants their job. most of them go from being stewards, to train managers, to drivers.

per month? fuck me.

isnt this thread supposed to be about Thatcher?!

[TheGayTent]

That level of pay is common in that industry.

You're "rewarded" for the inconvenience more than your expertise.

[Kyelo]

That level of pay is common in that industry.

You're "rewarded" for the inconvenience more than your expertise.

[TheGayTent]

Pretty much. Also depends on your contract, some get paid that every month. Others only the months they work.

[kaosmark2]

I'm trying to imagine what I could do with a 42k salary. I'm struggling.

[fred quimby]

I'm trying to imagine what I could do with a 42k salary. I'm struggling.